Saturday, 14 April 2012

[Supertraining] Digest Number 4548

Messages In This Digest (4 Messages)

1a.
Re: 1 Rep Max From: mark@extremeconditioning.com
1b.
Re: 1 Rep Max From: triathlon.coach@btinternet.com
1c.
Re: 1 Rep Max From: samuel9888
2.
Supertraining Ebook/PDF From: M. Gene

Messages

1a.

Re: 1 Rep Max

Posted by: "mark@extremeconditioning.com" mark@extremeconditioning.com   mark_l_cotton

Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:31 am (PDT)



I use a flat bichromial grip bench. I generally start with the simple question, "What do you think is your 1RM?" With most athletes they tend to have an honest appraisal of themselves. The businessman or woman not so much. In their case I usually reduce the given number by 20%.

Once the estimated 1RM is established I follow this protocol:
40% -4 reps/2 sets/10 second rest period/then 1 set each
60%-3 reps/30 seconds
75%-2 reps/60 seconds
80%-1 rep/120 seconds
90%-1 rep/180 seconds
95%-1 rep/240 seconds
You either have arrived at a 1RM your next set or repeat the last set until you do. All sets require lowering the weight at a 3-4 second tempo. Additionally, any variation from strict form...a spot needed, hips elevated, bar speed variation on the way up, tilting bar...anything, ends the test and the last strict movement is recorded as the 1RM.

I also verify my findings by including further structural balance testing by using the dumbbell external rotation which is generally 9.8% of your max bench and the Dumbbell Trap Three Raise which generally is 10.6% of your max bench. This is for an 8RM.

I hope this helps.

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>Is there a protocol for conducting a one rep max test. I woiuld think that
>if the test is not done the exact same way each time it is administered the
>results will not be accurate. If no such protocol exists, can I have some
>thoughts on how you may conduct this proceedure......Thanks for your
>help.....Martin C. Mark, CFT
>Fort Lauderd
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1b.

Re: 1 Rep Max

Posted by: "triathlon.coach@btinternet.com" triathlon.coach@btinternet.com   triathlon.coach@btinternet.com

Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:31 am (PDT)



Hi Martin,

I have used the following from Newton, R. U., Cormie, P., and Cardinale, M. (2011). Monitoring strength and conditioning progress. In M. Cardinale, R. Newton, and Nosaka, K (eds). Strength and Conditioning. Biological Principles and Practical Applications. This is a similar protocol to that detailed by T. R. Baechle and R. W. Earle (eds) in Essentials of Strength Training and Conditioning.

1RM Protocol being
10 repetitions at 50% 1RM. 3-5 minutes rest
5 repetitions at 70% 1RM. 3-5 minutes rest
3 repetitions at 80% 1RM. 3-5 minutes rest
1 repetition at 90% 1RM. 3-5 minutes rest.
Up to three attempts to determine actual 1 RM with 3-5 min rest between each effort.

Hope that helps,
Scott Murray
London

--- In Supertraining@yahoogroups.com, Martin Mark <mcm.fitness@...> wrote:
>
> Is there a protocol for conducting a one rep max test. I woiuld think that
> if the test is not done the exact same way each time it is administered the
> results will not be accurate. If no such protocol exists, can I have some
> thoughts on how you may conduct this proceedure......Thanks for your
> help.....Martin C. Mark, CFT
> Fort Lauderd
>
>
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1c.

Re: 1 Rep Max

Posted by: "samuel9888" Sam68123@cox.net   samuel9888

Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:31 am (PDT)



Hi Mark,

I'm sure some protocals are in "Essentials of Strength and Conditioning" from NSCA(Baechle and Earle) or "Designing Resistance Training Programs" (Fleck and Kraemer). I never actually conducted one in a lab setting. In a free-living, practical setting (training non-sthletes), it isn't really all that useful.

"Accurate results" is a very elusive concept for this test because there are too many variables to control. At best, you can get today's one-rep max on an individual. Also, it's not that necessary, or sometimes even advisable, to perform a one-rep max test for individuals unless you are performing a research study where such test results are outcome variables.

If you Google "1-rep max test protocol, I'm sure you'll run across some scholarly references that will point you toward the protocol they used.

Teresa Merrick, Ph.D.
ACSM HFS; NSCA-CPT/CSCS
Bellevue, NE

--- In Supertraining@yahoogroups.com, Martin Mark <mcm.fitness@...> wrote:
>
> Is there a protocol for conducting a one rep max test. I woiuld think that if the test is not done the exact same way each time it is administered the results will not be accurate. If no such protocol exists, can I have some thoughts on how you may conduct this proceedure......Thanks for your
> help.....Martin C. Mark, CFT
> Fort Lauderd
>
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2.

Supertraining Ebook/PDF

Posted by: "M. Gene" mgmirra@yahoo.com   mgmirra

Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:31 am (PDT)



Hello,

Does anyone here know where I can purchase/acquire Supertraining in either an Ebook or PDF format?

Thanks!

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Friday, 13 April 2012

[Relationship-Talk] Long-Lost Love, Found-- but now what?!?

 

I recently started a relationship with Robert, a crush I've had for 10 years. We met as young teenagers, flirted back-and-forth, but we never acted upon those feelings. After knowing him for about a year, my family moved out-of-state. We have communicated via phone and email on and off for the past decade. I was so taken with him that one of my serious relationships ended because of my draw to Robert.

As fallout from that, this past December, I had a frank conversation with Robert and we agreed to meet and clear this up once and for all. So what happened? The love I had always felt (from 10 years ago!) was still there, and it brimmed when I saw him.

We've been dating for 3 months now. I'm finally getting a chance to get to know him better and make a more informed decision about him.

So why am I here? What's the problem?

There are things I'm too embarrassed to share with even my closest friends...

#1. A week before coming to see me, he slept with his girlfriend of 7 months and only AFTER that, broke up with her. It broke my heart when he told me, but I couldn't walk away from him... I feel disrespected. If anyone else did this, I would end it then and there. However, I couldn't with him... Should I?

#2. I am a medical student. He is a mechanic. I don't mind that difference, but I fear that (should this turn long-term), being a bread-winner in my relationship might make me feel like a parent to him. I am fundamentally much more motivated and driven than he is. He flies by the seat of his pants and lives for every moment while I am more forward-thinking. Does that spell incompatible?

#3. He flaked on coming home to my family this spring break. Granted, he was called to work. However, I believe he could have said 'no' OR he should've requested off time before committing to that holiday with me. So... I went out to him (drove those 200 miles) so that I could see him. We spent time with his family instead. But, guess what he did? He didn't tell his mother I was coming over for dinner... I told him to, but he didn't. I wish he had! For me, it felt so embarrassing to just show up like that. He insists that the etiquette between my family vs. his family is very different. Maybe it is... but I still have a problem with that...

#4. He seems self-absorbed. He usually doesn't ask me details about my day unless I stay silent on the phone line at the end of the night.

#5. He has "been with" 8 women. My number is 2 (1 of which is him). I feel very cheated by that...

Yes, every relationship has problems... and yes, our relationship is rich with other very good things. He loves me dearly, he regrets #1, #3, and #5. He always calls me back when we fight. He always expresses himself to me. He cries over me. I love how passionate he is, how compassionate he can be. But I fear that this relationship may be DOA b/c of our disparate value systems...

I do, I want to be with him, but I am sincerely struggling here... Am I sacrificing my self-respect? If I can do better, should I? I love him, but I also love myself.

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[Supertraining] Digest Number 4547

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1 Rep Max From: Martin Mark

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1 Rep Max

Posted by: "Martin Mark" mcm.fitness@gmail.com   mcm.certifiedtrainer

Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:23 am (PDT)



Is there a protocol for conducting a one rep max test. I woiuld think that
if the test is not done the exact same way each time it is administered the
results will not be accurate. If no such protocol exists, can I have some
thoughts on how you may conduct this proceedure......Thanks for your
help.....Martin C. Mark, CFT
Fort Lauderd

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Thursday, 12 April 2012

[entrepreneurs] How to start your own SEO biz

 

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[Supertraining] Digest Number 4546

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Message

1a.

Re: How The Biggest Loser Promotes Weight Bias | Dr. Sharma's Obesit

Posted by: "samuel9888" Sam68123@cox.net   samuel9888

Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:24 am (PDT)



Sorry, that should have read "the show can be OVER the top" (I missed saying "over" in my original below).

Teresa Merrick, Ph.D.
Bellevue, NE

--- In Supertraining@yahoogroups.com, "samuel9888" <Sam68123@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Linda,
>
> I wanted to correct a misconception in your post.
>
> ACSM did not perform the study. The panel discussion cited results from the following:
> http://thomsonreuters.com/content/press_room/healthcare/tr_poll_half_americans_believe_shows_positive
>
> If you read that article, the results are from those who are regular viewers of such programs. Not people who look in on one or two episodes.
>
> Also, one panelist, a nutrition faculty member, said she had been watching the program since season 3, waiting for someone on the show to say something she took issue with from a nutrition standpoint. So far, nothing has come up. She noted that this season, the dietitian seems to be on camera; a person in the discussion audience said that she knew they had always had a dietitian behind the scenes on the show, even though the trainers dispensed the nutrition advice on camera.
>
> Sure, the show can be the top and definitely unrealistic; that's why it's on TV--it's not a documentary. However, a person who chooses to take the term "loser" in the title as before the fact insult is probably not quite ready to change.
>
> I agree that the media and the medical industry is way too focused on weight and "fatness" and not about the inactivity epidemic we have. The bottom line for death and disease (mortality and morbidity in the epidemiology language) really is about fitness, fitness at any weight.
>
> Teresa Merrick, Ph.D.
> Bellevue, NE
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2face and Annie holiday in America

The about-to-wed lovebirds have since returned home – after spending several weeks in the United States, in their first extended trip together since the world-famous February 14 wedding proposal.
Annie Macauley and 2face enjoyed time alone together, chilling in Dallas, making wedding preparations and getting to one each other again.
We’re told Idibia spent the past month in the US working on his soon-to-be-released album; only taking a few days off to perform in the UK, and make some US appearances. He also attended at least one video shoot where he made a cameo appearance.
He left Nigeria with his manager, but Annie joined him later. The mother-of-one, who is now comfortably Mrs Idibia-to-be, left Nigeria on Tuesday March 20.
They were often in the studio together’ one insider tells us‘.
It was supposed to be a work trip for him. And he did spent plenty time recording and all; but they managed to spend a lot of time together. I think it’s a good thing because they’ve been able to bond well again. It’s a good thing, after all the years of drama preceding their reunion‘ said an Idibia source.
We’re told Annie has taken time off her work as a Nollywood actress; concentrating for now, on wedding plans and cementing her relationship with the man that means the world to her.
And Idibia, a ladies’ man and fun-lover now only has eyes for her, according to those who’s seen them severally these past weeks.
It’s even possible he did not see his hitherto ubiquitous baby Mama Pero Adeniyi while in the US. Pero delivered her third Idibia baby on Easter Sunday April 8. No one has heard a word from her since Idibia proposed to Ms Macauley last February.
2face Idibia’s 5th album is due later this month.

RE: [marriagerestoration] Doreen's Daily Delights - apr 11 2012 - HE IS ABLE!

 



As always, I want you to know that I am praying and interceding on your behalf daily. Thanks very much for keeping in touch.
 
Be encouraged
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Date: Fri, 11 apr 2012 13:19:38 +0000
Subject: [marriagerestoration] Doreen's Daily Delights - apr 11 - HE IS ABLE!

OH, YES, HE IS ABLE!!

My friends, God will help you, whatever your circumstances, whatever
you are going through at this time, believe that God is able to do
this. (Matthew 9:28). Believing in God's power is faith. Are you
bringing all of your cares and all of your problems to Jesus?

Do you feel confident that He will answer, or do you feel your
requests are impossible, and even God can't help? We serve a God to
whom NOTHING is impossible. He is able. Believe it! Start
acknowledging His power.

Praise Him for His love. Yes, He loves you, not except you, He
loves YOU. Put aside negative thoughts that destroy your faith and
keep God's word foremost in your mind.

Hear Him saying, "I will never leave you, nor forsake you." (Hebrews
13:5). No prayers are more important than yours - don't let yourself
think otherwise. Pray and communicate with God. That's what prayers
are all about - communicating with God.

Prayer is an open line to God, Himself. Don't let self-pity get the
upper hand - fight it. Communicate with God. Pray, "Let us
therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain
mercy and find grace in time of need." (Hebrews 4:16).

Worry is doubt and unbelief. I want you to fight them, don't just
meekly accept them. Remember, "But without faith it is impossible
to please Him; for he that cometh to God must believe that He is and
that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him." (Hebrews
11:6).

God's word tells us the just shall live by faith. Well then,
believe that your prayers are heard BECAUSE THEY ARE! Become strong
in your believing, strong in your thanksgiving, strong in your
expectancy for healing and restoration. Become faithful in praise,
and rejoice in the answers.

If you do this, you will soon be able to say, "Yes Lord, I have done
it. I obeyed Your command. I told all of them that YOU are able."

Be encouraged

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Wednesday, 11 April 2012

[Supertraining] Digest Number 4545

Messages In This Digest (2 Messages)

Messages

1a.

Re: How The Biggest Loser Promotes Weight Bias | Dr. Sharma's Obesit

Posted by: "samuel9888" Sam68123@cox.net   samuel9888

Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:32 am (PDT)



Hi Linda,

I wanted to correct a misconception in your post.

ACSM did not perform the study. The panel discussion cited results from the following:
http://thomsonreuters.com/content/press_room/healthcare/tr_poll_half_americans_believe_shows_positive

If you read that article, the results are from those who are regular viewers of such programs. Not people who look in on one or two episodes.

Also, one panelist, a nutrition faculty member, said she had been watching the program since season 3, waiting for someone on the show to say something she took issue with from a nutrition standpoint. So far, nothing has come up. She noted that this season, the dietitian seems to be on camera; a person in the discussion audience said that she knew they had always had a dietitian behind the scenes on the show, even though the trainers dispensed the nutrition advice on camera.

Sure, the show can be the top and definitely unrealistic; that's why it's on TV--it's not a documentary. However, a person who chooses to take the term "loser" in the title as before the fact insult is probably not quite ready to change.

I agree that the media and the medical industry is way too focused on weight and "fatness" and not about the inactivity epidemic we have. The bottom line for death and disease (mortality and morbidity in the epidemiology language) really is about fitness, fitness at any weight.

Teresa Merrick, Ph.D.
Bellevue, NE

--- In Supertraining@yahoogroups.com, deadliftdiva@... wrote:
>
> I looked in on a couple of this season's shows after reading the first posting. I have to say that the infighting and emotional stress that cast members put on each other, plus the over the top behavior of one of the trainers is very off putting. If there was a message there, it was "eliminate somebody succeeding with their weight loss because they're a threat" and "anything short of collapse is not doing enough for dramatic weight loss". If everybody did as this show suggests by example, we'd have a lot more calls to 911 and have heavy folks trying to submarine each other rather than support.
>
>
> This does not look like sanity. This is not encouraging to someone who might want to change their lifestyle - it suggests you have to have a crazy coach, and have to be secluded from your normal life. This is not what most people can afford to do, or realistically SHOULD DO.
>
>
> You cannot keep up the nutty efforts they make on this show for LIFE.
>
>
> Also, what is the rate at which former cast members regain weight? My understanding is not all past 'winners' have kept the weight down - no matter how carefully they select their cast - and they ARE hand selected - there are "failures" post show.....
>
>
> How large a group was the ACSM studying? and of the folks who were obese, how many actually did anything after their "positive response" to the broadcast? Did they go out and hire trainers, and diet help? How many succeeded in extreme weight loss and maintained it?
>
>
> Also it is my understanding that "Jillian" from the earlier years of this show is being sued? Something about unhealthy supplements she was helping to sell?
>
>
> I think the original posting is much closer to the mark. Sizism or what you wish to call it certainly is around and doing very well in American society. The show is helping to make the rift worse.
>
>
> One example - I was in a dress shop recently and a lady who appeared to be very high strung, had almost no body with bones protruding (and zero bodyfat from the appearance) had tried on a size 0 and then demanded to know from the lady assisting her whether this had been "stretched out by someone fat". After the shop lady recovered from the phrasing of the question - I mean, how fat are you at size 0 or2 or ? - she pointed out that only 1 other lady had tried the dress on and she believed it was still quite proper to the size. She also said if this lady wished, they would order her one and if necessary, alter it to meet her needs....inward.
>
>
> Fat at size 0?? what sort of mental process or lack does it take to arrive THERE?
>
>
> Second example - years ago, I was competing on the platform. One of the judges was a lightweight lifter who threw nothing but red lights at all the ladies in my flight in the squat and after 2 rounds, they removed her. Why? Because she didn't like FAT people. Even said it outright in the hall at the break. :( The flight had been the 82.5, 90 kg, and shw. Luckily the other 2 judges had passed most of the lifts and nobody bombed out because of her, but still....sigh.
>
>
> Third - as a massage therapist, I work with all sizes. I've heard coworkers and gals I went to school with proclaim that they didn't want to work on anybody who was fat... (some made it "old and fat").
>
>
> BBC America did a show where they took a couple of ladies and pointedly put them through mental and physical evals to be sure they were up to the study, then had them fight their way down to a very small size from a normal weight by any means possible. One (a journalist) had a sort of breakdown and had to be removed from the study..... One of the participants ate her way back to her normal weight afterward but nearly broke her relationship during the whole thing. They showed the methods the participants used. They also detailed and followed up after the study to show what happened. The journalist was still struggling with the behaviors that had caused her to quit the study. They were all hell to be around, miserable, and I think a far more realistic portrayal of what does go on with models and others who intentionally force weight loss down to a tiny size really have to do to get there and maintain it.
>
>
> The use of the word "loser" in that title of the show is appropriate - for it's meant to point out how bad these folks' lives are for simply being fat. From what they show of the audition tapes, you have to be desperate enough to degrade YOURSELF on there before they allow you in.
>
>
> Trying to sell folks on a sane idea of walking more steps vs. the glory of loserdom is probably not going to work. By the way - I've seen very overweight ER nurses who had pedometers on and did about 10,000 steps a day....just how much further do they need to walk on tired legs before their weight moves? Bodies acclimate to the stresses we put them under and well, I'm not convinced the one guy I saw (about 6'5" and 400ish?) is going to lose significant weight from his pedometer clicking over daily. Sigh. He was a very good nurse by the way - very gentle and good manner with the gal he was working on.
>
>
> One size never did fit all. It's the biggest loser myth.
>
>
> The Phantom
> aka Linda Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter
> Denver, Colorado USA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "samuel9888" <Sam68123@...>
> To: Supertraining@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 9:51:40 AM
> Subject: [Supertraining] Re: How The Biggest Loser Promotes Weight Bias | Dr. Sharma's Obesity Notes
>
> A panel presentation last week at ACSM's Health and Fitness Summit cited research on the effects of reality TV about weight loss on respondents. 57% said the programs have influenced their eating habits and 48% said the shows influenced their exercise behavior. The percentages were dramatically higher among obese respondents (72%/73% respectively). BL has spawned grassroots spinoffs of the idea at workplaces, communities, and other areas. The segments portrayed on the shows are only a small part of the entire process and obviously selected to heighten the drama and viewer involvement. In addition, Tara Costa gave a keynote address about her experience on BL and "living a new lifestyle" (from the title of the presentation). Most informative!
>
> We don't know what 40-minute segment (or combination of segments to equal 40 minutes) of the show was used to conduct the research by Domoff et al. There is room for both perspectives regarding the show: some positive elements and some negative elements. One truth about BL and its clones is that they focus on outcomes vs behavior. How about a "Biggest Mover" contestâ€"a pedometer step challenge?
>
> Teresa Merrick, Ph.D.
> ACSM HFS, NSCA-CPT/CSCS
> Bellevue, NE
>
> --- In Supertraining@yahoogroups.com , David Supertraining International <david@> wrote:
> >
> > http://www.drsharma.ca/how-the-biggest-loser-promotes-weight-bias.html
> >
> > David Driscoll
> > Sydney, Australia.

1b.

Re: How The Biggest Loser Promotes Weight Bias | Dr. Sharma's Obesit

Posted by: "efreem3407@aol.com" efreem3407@aol.com   powerlifter4231

Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:32 am (PDT)




The biggest loser is a game show.

The physical competitions that the biggest loser contestants do, while fun to watch, are not really great forms of exercise and some of those physical competitions cause injury. Bob and Jillian are healthy but I don't want to look like either one of them. Besides I've never even once seen Bob use a barbell or dumbbell. I've never done any of the non traditional exercises that the trainers have the contestants do. I don't kick box. I don't use a heavy bag or speed bag. I don't pull any ropes. I don't use a landmine. All I really do for exercise are some dumbbell and barbell exercises and some walking. I don't workout twice a day or exercise after every meal. The way the show is shown on TV, every time the contestants eat they go workout about an hour later. Plus these contestants do so much cardio. They are doing cardio twice a day and cardio in every workout session. Plus, if you need a trainer to yell at you that much and push you that much to exercise you aren't going to be motivated to exercise on your own. A lot of people don't have access to a lot of the equipment on the Biggest Loser. Most people really only have access to what's in their local gym which is usually barbells, dumbbells, weight training machines, and cardio machines.

Edwin Freeman, Jr.
San Francisco, USA

-----Original Message-----
From: deadliftdiva <deadliftdiva@comcast.net>
To: Supertraining <Supertraining@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Apr 8, 2012 2:33 pm
Subject: Re: [Supertraining] Re: How The Biggest Loser Promotes Weight Bias | Dr. Sharma's Obesity Notes

I looked in on a couple of this season's shows after reading the first posting.
I have to say that the infighting and emotional stress that cast members put on
each other, plus the over the top behavior of one of the trainers is very off
putting. If there was a message there, it was "eliminate somebody succeeding
with their weight loss because they're a threat" and "anything short of collapse
is not doing enough for dramatic weight loss". If everybody did as this show
suggests by example, we'd have a lot more calls to 911 and have heavy folks
trying to submarine each other rather than support.

This does not look like sanity. This is not encouraging to someone who might
want to change their lifestyle - it suggests you have to have a crazy coach, and
have to be secluded from your normal life. This is not what most people can
afford to do, or realistically SHOULD DO.

You cannot keep up the nutty efforts they make on this show for LIFE.

Also, what is the rate at which former cast members regain weight? My
understanding is not all past 'winners' have kept the weight down - no matter
how carefully they select their cast - and they ARE hand selected - there are
"failures" post show.....

How large a group was the ACSM studying? and of the folks who were obese, how
many actually did anything after their "positive response" to the broadcast? Did
they go out and hire trainers, and diet help? How many succeeded in extreme
weight loss and maintained it?

Also it is my understanding that "Jillian" from the earlier years of this show
is being sued? Something about unhealthy supplements she was helping to sell?

I think the original posting is much closer to the mark. Sizism or what you wish
to call it certainly is around and doing very well in American society. The show
is helping to make the rift worse.

One example - I was in a dress shop recently and a lady who appeared to be very
high strung, had almost no body with bones protruding (and zero bodyfat from the
appearance) had tried on a size 0 and then demanded to know from the lady
assisting her whether this had been "stretched out by someone fat". After the
shop lady recovered from the phrasing of the question - I mean, how fat are you
at size 0 or2 or ? - she pointed out that only 1 other lady had tried the dress
on and she believed it was still quite proper to the size. She also said if this
lady wished, they would order her one and if necessary, alter it to meet her
needs....inward.

Fat at size 0?? what sort of mental process or lack does it take to arrive
THERE?

Second example - years ago, I was competing on the platform. One of the judges
was a lightweight lifter who threw nothing but red lights at all the ladies in
my flight in the squat and after 2 rounds, they removed her. Why? Because she
didn't like FAT people. Even said it outright in the hall at the break. :( The
flight had been the 82.5, 90 kg, and shw. Luckily the other 2 judges had passed
most of the lifts and nobody bombed out because of her, but still....sigh.

Third - as a massage therapist, I work with all sizes. I've heard coworkers and
gals I went to school with proclaim that they didn't want to work on anybody who
was fat... (some made it "old and fat").

BBC America did a show where they took a couple of ladies and pointedly put them
through mental and physical evals to be sure they were up to the study, then had
them fight their way down to a very small size from a normal weight by any means
possible. One (a journalist) had a sort of breakdown and had to be removed from
the study..... One of the participants ate her way back to her normal weight
afterward but nearly broke her relationship during the whole thing. They showed
the methods the participants used. They also detailed and followed up after the
study to show what happened. The journalist was still struggling with the
behaviors that had caused her to quit the study. They were all hell to be
around, miserable, and I think a far more realistic portrayal of what does go on
with models and others who intentionally force weight loss down to a tiny size
really have to do to get there and maintain it.

The use of the word "loser" in that title of the show is appropriate - for it's
meant to point out how bad these folks' lives are for simply being fat. From
what they show of the audition tapes, you have to be desperate enough to degrade
YOURSELF on there before they allow you in.

Trying to sell folks on a sane idea of walking more steps vs. the glory of
loserdom is probably not going to work. By the way - I've seen very overweight
ER nurses who had pedometers on and did about 10,000 steps a day....just how
much further do they need to walk on tired legs before their weight moves?
Bodies acclimate to the stresses we put them under and well, I'm not convinced
the one guy I saw (about 6'5" and 400ish?) is going to lose significant weight
from his pedometer clicking over daily. Sigh. He was a very good nurse by the
way - very gentle and good manner with the gal he was working on.

One size never did fit all. It's the biggest loser myth.

The Phantom
aka Linda Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter
Denver, Colorado USA

----- Original Message -----
From: "samuel9888" <Sam68123@cox.net>
To: Supertraining@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 9:51:40 AM
Subject: [Supertraining] Re: How The Biggest Loser Promotes Weight Bias | Dr.
Sharma's Obesity Notes

A panel presentation last week at ACSM's Health and Fitness Summit cited
research on the effects of reality TV about weight loss on respondents. 57% said
the programs have influenced their eating habits and 48% said the shows
influenced their exercise behavior. The percentages were dramatically higher
among obese respondents (72%/73% respectively). BL has spawned grassroots
spinoffs of the idea at workplaces, communities, and other areas. The segments
portrayed on the shows are only a small part of the entire process and obviously
selected to heighten the drama and viewer involvement. In addition, Tara Costa
gave a keynote address about her experience on BL and "living a new lifestyle"
(from the title of the presentation). Most informative!

We don't know what 40-minute segment (or combination of segments to equal 40
minutes) of the show was used to conduct the research by Domoff et al. There is
room for both perspectives regarding the show: some positive elements and some
negative elements. One truth about BL and its clones is that they focus on
outcomes vs behavior. How about a "Biggest Mover" contestâ€"a pedometer step
challenge?

Teresa Merrick, Ph.D.
ACSM HFS, NSCA-CPT/CSCS
Bellevue, NE

--- In Supertraining@yahoogroups.com , David Supertraining International
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> http://www.drsharma.ca/how-the-biggest-loser-promotes-weight-bias.html
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> David Driscoll
> Sydney, Australia.
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