Messages In This Digest (5 Messages)
- 1.1.
- A question about a video on youtube From: John Casler
- 1.2.
- Re: A question about a video on youtube From: Vlad
- 1.3.
- Re: A question about a video on youtube From: Giovanni Ciriani
- 1.4.
- Re: A question about a video on youtube From: deadliftdiva@comcast.net
- 1.5.
- Re: A question about a video on youtube From: efreem3407@aol.com
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- 1.1.
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A question about a video on youtube
Posted by: "John Casler" bioforce.inc@gte.net bioforce_inc
Fri May 18, 2012 7:02 am (PDT)
Those questioning the validity of the Russian Video may also enjoy this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch? feature=fvwp& NR=1&v=sYN1DrPZA TI
I make no claims or speculations regarding this video, but I think some will
have definite opinions.
My only comment is the only bar that bends is at the end of the video, and
not from weight. : )
Regards,
John Casler
TRI-VECTOR 3-D Training Systems
Century City, CA
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-----Original Message-----
From: Supertraining@yahoogroups. [mailto:Supertraining@com yahoogroups. ]com
On Behalf Of deadliftdiva@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:33 PM
To: Supertraining@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [Supertraining] A question about a video on youtube
Sure it would - it would fund their retirement someday :).
Training videos, books, world records, and in some federations, cold hard
cash - appearance fees and prize money. :)
That's why this is a bit suspect - perhaps he was stronger once - and
perhaps the person who put the weights on there is not correct - but
Guinness does not have him listed, and his other things are a bit stuntish -
like phone book tearing, there is a trick to some of it rather than overall
power/strength.
Just saying that if he were truly as strong as the video suggests, he would
indeed make some money. Russia and other countries have had some VERY
lucrative PL and strongman events...drawing Americans and well, the world
overall.
If he truly were this strong, it would only enhance his income and his
reputation to do meets and make money - the questions arise because his
weights are not weighed officially, and the rest of the questions.
The kettlebell org would be smart to sponsor him to do a meet or two, with a
real PL org - and prove their hero - they too would gain from this.
Otherwise it's in the world of fake plates, like many other persons without
the credentials...and if he is truly this strong, that would be a shame,
right? :)
The Phantom
aka Linda Schaefer, RMT/CMT, competing powerlifter Denver, Colorado, USA
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Re: A question about a video on youtube
Posted by: "Vlad" proself2000@yahoo.com proself2000
Fri May 18, 2012 7:03 am (PDT)
Valentin Dikul doesn't need anyone's recognition, and he doesn't need the Guinness book recognition. He has been recognized at least since 80's by thousands of people, including Soviet and Russian government. He was even a member or deputy of the Supreme Soviet. He doesn't need you to purchase his video or books to make money. He already has enough money. He wrote nine books, but all of them are about overcoming different types of back pain, not about PL or strength training. He wrote these books just to help people who suffer from pain and couldn't afford to visit him, but could do something on their own.
He turned 64 on April 3rd. The record in 450 kg, he established when he was 61 or 62. He only bet with one Russian PL that he could do that. You cannot understand the Russian mentality of people of his generation that is not the dollar mentality. His motto is: "I have done that. I can walk."
On his own experience, he has shown that people with spinal cord injuries can restore the ability to move partially or even completely. He has helped thousands of people in his Center for the rehabilitation of patients with spinal injuries and the effects of cerebral palsy. It was opened in 1988. Now, there are two centers in Moscow. Just in few years, after opening this center, it took months and months to get an appointment with him to start working on his rehabilitation program. I knew personally people who overcome some disability limitations; one of them started walking again after a wheelchair.
Vladimir,
Phoenix, AZ
--- In Supertraining@yahoogroups. , boris b <boris_york@com ...> wrote:
>
> You have to read between the lines here a little Linda. If their (and again, I'm talking about a long line of strongmen - I don't want to name names, but they're around and they don't hide) market is built upon the reputation of being "the strongest in the world", there is nowhere to go but down if they were to actually step upon a sanctioned lifting platform or into a organized strongman competition. In my opinion, there's no doubt that they are strong - actual numbers for official lifts are something else entirely.
>
>
> I don't know how old Valentin is these days (a simple Google search would probably turn it up but I don't care enough to check), but I'm sure he's not looking to put out a lot of videos, books, and appearances. Even if he was, I'm sure there's enough of a niche market for his stuff as it is.
>
> Boris Bachmann
> Des Moines, IA
>
>
> _____________________ _________ __
> From: "deadliftdiva@..." <deadliftdiva@ ...>
> To: Supertraining@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Supertraining] A question about a video on youtube
>
>
> Â
> Sure it would - it would fund their retirement someday :).
>
> Training videos, books, world records, and in some federations, cold hard cash - appearance fees and prize money. :)
>
> That's why this is a bit suspect - perhaps he was stronger once - and perhaps the person who put the weights on there is not correct - but Guinness does not have him listed, and his other things are a bit stuntish - like phone book tearing, there is a trick to some of it rather than overall power/strength.
>
> Just saying that if he were truly as strong as the video suggests, he would indeed make some money. Russia and other countries have had some VERY lucrative PL and strongman events...drawing Americans and well, the world overall.
>
> If he truly were this strong, it would only enhance his income and his reputation to do meets and make money - the questions arise because his weights are not weighed officially, and the rest of the questions.
>
> The kettlebell org would be smart to sponsor him to do a meet or two, with a real PL org - and prove their hero - they too would gain from this.
>
> Otherwise it's in the world of fake plates, like many other persons without the credentials...and if he is truly this strong, that would be a shame, right? :)
>
> The Phantom
> aka Linda Schaefer, RMT/CMT, competing powerlifter
> Denver, Colorado, USA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "boris b" <boris_york@...>
> To: Supertraining@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 4:25:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [Supertraining] A question about a video on youtube
>
> Valentin Dikul is for real. He is legitimately very, very strong.
>
> I don't know about the listed weights however - it is a video that was re-loaded by a kettlebell organization.
>
> The list of very strong individuals who've never competed in sanctioned PL meets is long and illustrious. We all know that. Seriously, for these individuals, competing would do nothing positive for the mystique and market they've built with their ability to odd/unconventional lifts.
>
> Boris Bachmann
> Des Moines, IA
>
> _____________________ _________ __
> From: " deadliftdiva@... " < deadliftdiva@ ... >
> To: Supertraining@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Supertraining] A question about a video on youtube
>
> Well, he's not listed on the Guinness site that I could find. This is not at a competition of any sort, nor are the plates and bar specified or weighed out on camera to prove a point here either, which they would be if this were a record attempt perhaps? I've heard Guinness is pretty meticulous about such things - someone I know went to a recordbreaker event in Milan, Italy, and told me about it.
>
> I also find the bar and its loads a bit suspect - plus i would be very surprised at ANYONE walking out a squat to the front of standards like that for one thing... the bar and the standards didn't look sufficient to support the supposed weight in question. I'd also think the bar whip from a bar that is not a good bar would have substantial effect on a sq that really is in that range. Why load OL bounce plates instead of metal 50 kg's - the metal are much thinner? If a person had fake 50 kg bounces though...?
>
> My guess is that those larger "plates" have sand in them or are wooden. Certain BB mags tend to replace the metal plates except for 1 of them with wood to take the pictures as it's easier to stand there with 3 wooden and 1 metal weight on each side. One reason I suspect this? well, nobody needs to make the weights and bar whip about at the top with a real load like that on that deadlift....I think it's not real, I think some of it is sand and he's trying to MAKE it look real. There's more videos of this guy. He's also getting his DL from pads higher than his feet - which makes it a bit easier.
>
> The barbell bend in the bench and other things make me think perhaps this is staged. A bounced full rep like that also would be disallowed even in bad PL feds... and something around 185 or 200 kg would also bend a bar sufficiently to account for this bend, especially with a less strong barbell.
>
> I did some comparing on videos also with known footage of Konstantin Konstantinovs for example - and Andy Bolton.
>
> I think it's unlikely this whole deal is for real. I'd ask one good q - with all the money now in PL meets in Russia and other places, why would a guy like this NOT show up and weigh in, and officially take all that money? Seriously? :) And there is the likely answer, if he was for real, he would.
>
> The Phantom
> aka Linda Schaefer, RMT/CMT, competing powerlifter
> Denver, Colorado, USA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: efreem3407@...
> To: Supertraining@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 12:21:56 AM
> Subject: [Supertraining] A question about a video on youtube
>
> I found this video on YouTube. Is this real or fake? Who is this person?
>
> Valentin Dikul Guinness World Record
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=ygCRtex_ GDo&NR=1& feature=endscree n&list=PLB02C1F8 F06F782B6
>
> Please share your thoughts.
>
> Edwin Freeman, Jr.
> San Francisco, USA
>
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Re: A question about a video on youtube
Posted by: "Giovanni Ciriani" Giovanni.Ciriani@Gmail.com gciriani
Fri May 18, 2012 9:16 am (PDT)
That's an interesting comment.
Giovanni Ciriani - West Hartford, CT - USA
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 5:10 AM, Vlad <proself2000@yahoo.com > wrote:
> **
>
>
> Valentin Dikul doesn't need anyone's recognition, and he doesn't need the
> Guinness book recognition. He has been recognized at least since 80's by
> thousands of people, including Soviet and Russian government. He was even a
> member or deputy of the Supreme Soviet. He doesn't need you to purchase his
> video or books to make money. He already has enough money. He wrote nine
> books, but all of them are about overcoming different types of back pain,
> not about PL or strength training. He wrote these books just to help people
> who suffer from pain and couldn't afford to visit him, but could do
> something on their own.
>
> He turned 64 on April 3rd. The record in 450 kg, he established when he
> was 61 or 62. He only bet with one Russian PL that he could do that. You
> cannot understand the Russian mentality of people of his generation that is
> not the dollar mentality. His motto is: "I have done that. I can walk."
>
> On his own experience, he has shown that people with spinal cord injuries
> can restore the ability to move partially or even completely. He has helped
> thousands of people in his Center for the rehabilitation of patients with
> spinal injuries and the effects of cerebral palsy. It was opened in 1988.
> Now, there are two centers in Moscow. Just in few years, after opening this
> center, it took months and months to get an appointment with him to start
> working on his rehabilitation program. I knew personally people who
> overcome some disability limitations; one of them started walking again
> after a wheelchair.
>
> Vladimir,
> Phoenix, AZ
>
> --- In Supertraining@yahoogroups. , boris b <boris_york@com ...> wrote:
> >
> > You have to read between the lines here a little Linda. If their (and
> again, I'm talking about a long line of strongmen - I don't want to name
> names, but they're around and they don't hide) market is built upon the
> reputation of being "the strongest in the world", there is nowhere to go
> but down if they were to actually step upon a sanctioned lifting platform
> or into a organized strongman competition. In my opinion, there's no doubt
> that they are strong - actual numbers for official lifts are something else
> entirely.
> >
> >
> > I don't know how old Valentin is these days (a simple Google search
> would probably turn it up but I don't care enough to check), but I'm sure
> he's not looking to put out a lot of videos, books, and appearances. Even
> if he was, I'm sure there's enough of a niche market for his stuff as it is.
> >
> > Boris Bachmann
> > Des Moines, IA
> >
> >
> > _____________________ _________ __
> > From: "deadliftdiva@..." <deadliftdiva@ ...>
>
> > To: Supertraining@yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Supertraining] A question about a video on youtube
> >
> >
> > Â
> > Sure it would - it would fund their retirement someday :).
> >
> > Training videos, books, world records, and in some federations, cold
> hard cash - appearance fees and prize money. :)
> >
> > That's why this is a bit suspect - perhaps he was stronger once - and
> perhaps the person who put the weights on there is not correct - but
> Guinness does not have him listed, and his other things are a bit stuntish
> - like phone book tearing, there is a trick to some of it rather than
> overall power/strength.
> >
> > Just saying that if he were truly as strong as the video suggests, he
> would indeed make some money. Russia and other countries have had some VERY
> lucrative PL and strongman events...drawing Americans and well, the world
> overall.
> >
> > If he truly were this strong, it would only enhance his income and his
> reputation to do meets and make money - the questions arise because his
> weights are not weighed officially, and the rest of the questions.
> >
> > The kettlebell org would be smart to sponsor him to do a meet or two,
> with a real PL org - and prove their hero - they too would gain from this.
> >
> > Otherwise it's in the world of fake plates, like many other persons
> without the credentials...and if he is truly this strong, that would be a
> shame, right? :)
> >
> > The Phantom
> > aka Linda Schaefer, RMT/CMT, competing powerlifter
> > Denver, Colorado, USA
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "boris b" <boris_york@...>
> > To: Supertraining@yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 4:25:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Supertraining] A question about a video on youtube
> >
> > Valentin Dikul is for real. He is legitimately very, very strong.
> >
> > I don't know about the listed weights however - it is a video that was
> re-loaded by a kettlebell organization.
> >
> > The list of very strong individuals who've never competed in sanctioned
> PL meets is long and illustrious. We all know that. Seriously, for these
> individuals, competing would do nothing positive for the mystique and
> market they've built with their ability to odd/unconventional lifts.
> >
> > Boris Bachmann
> > Des Moines, IA
> >
> > _____________________ _________ __
> > From: " deadliftdiva@... " < deadliftdiva@ ... >
> > To: Supertraining@yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Supertraining] A question about a video on youtube
> >
> > Well, he's not listed on the Guinness site that I could find. This is
> not at a competition of any sort, nor are the plates and bar specified or
> weighed out on camera to prove a point here either, which they would be if
> this were a record attempt perhaps? I've heard Guinness is pretty
> meticulous about such things - someone I know went to a recordbreaker event
> in Milan, Italy, and told me about it.
> >
> > I also find the bar and its loads a bit suspect - plus i would be very
> surprised at ANYONE walking out a squat to the front of standards like that
> for one thing... the bar and the standards didn't look sufficient to
> support the supposed weight in question. I'd also think the bar whip from a
> bar that is not a good bar would have substantial effect on a sq that
> really is in that range. Why load OL bounce plates instead of metal 50 kg's
> - the metal are much thinner? If a person had fake 50 kg bounces though...?
> >
> > My guess is that those larger "plates" have sand in them or are wooden.
> Certain BB mags tend to replace the metal plates except for 1 of them with
> wood to take the pictures as it's easier to stand there with 3 wooden and 1
> metal weight on each side. One reason I suspect this? well, nobody needs to
> make the weights and bar whip about at the top with a real load like that
> on that deadlift....I think it's not real, I think some of it is sand and
> he's trying to MAKE it look real. There's more videos of this guy. He's
> also getting his DL from pads higher than his feet - which makes it a bit
> easier.
> >
> > The barbell bend in the bench and other things make me think perhaps
> this is staged. A bounced full rep like that also would be disallowed even
> in bad PL feds... and something around 185 or 200 kg would also bend a bar
> sufficiently to account for this bend, especially with a less strong
> barbell.
> >
> > I did some comparing on videos also with known footage of Konstantin
> Konstantinovs for example - and Andy Bolton.
> >
> > I think it's unlikely this whole deal is for real. I'd ask one good q -
> with all the money now in PL meets in Russia and other places, why would a
> guy like this NOT show up and weigh in, and officially take all that money?
> Seriously? :) And there is the likely answer, if he was for real, he would.
> >
> > The Phantom
> > aka Linda Schaefer, RMT/CMT, competing powerlifter
> > Denver, Colorado, USA
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: efreem3407@...
> > To: Supertraining@yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 12:21:56 AM
> > Subject: [Supertraining] A question about a video on youtube
> >
> > I found this video on YouTube. Is this real or fake? Who is this person?
> >
> > Valentin Dikul Guinness World Record
> >
> >
> http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=ygCRtex_ GDo&NR=1& feature=endscree n&list=PLB02C1F8 F06F782B6
> >
> > Please share your thoughts.
> >
> > Edwin Freeman, Jr.
> > San Francisco, USA
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: A question about a video on youtube
Posted by: "deadliftdiva@comcast.net" deadliftdiva@comcast.net
Fri May 18, 2012 9:17 am (PDT)
<choke> John, next time please warn me what you're putting up. :( good grief.
Let's say I struggled for objectivity while choking on my coffee here on this video....but I can say that I can see the light plates showing on at least 1 of the "lifts" - the view from 1 angle shows a lot more holes on an inside plate, that they goofed on hiding the light plates on the "big" load there. What I'm wondering is if there are a bunch of those really light 5 kg plates in here, it sure looks like a training 5 kg on the inside (the full diameter of a regular plate, but lots of holes to lighten it up?). Say they load a real plate and a bunch of those full diameter 5 kg inside and voila, amazing lift lol.... Another strange squat walkout though - what's with the walking it out forward and backing in to rack?
As for bending the barbell, yeah....uh...not likely.
I also tried to look this person up and figure out if there's a name change or gender change in there somewhere.... again though, with money now available for "pro powerlifters" and the added sponsorships lately, you do have to ask why this person isn't well, raking in the money if they're for real.
My eyeballs feel scarred for life, John. I'm holding you responsible. I'd much rather watch the Russian guy.... again, whether he's got the full amount or his admirers on the tape have the weights correct, I'd say he's at least a pretty strong guy, I still wonder a lot about that front walk out on the squat for one thing. But then if I want to watch something amazing and real, I'd watch Konstantin Konstantinovs DL workout and well, try to learn...
The Phantom
aka Linda Schaefer, RMT/CMT, competing powerlifter
Denver, Colorado, USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Casler" <bioforce.inc@gte.net >
To: Supertraining@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 12:59:18 PM
Subject: [Supertraining] A question about a video on youtube
Those questioning the validity of the Russian Video may also enjoy this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch? feature=fvwp& NR=1&v=sYN1DrPZA TI
I make no claims or speculations regarding this video, but I think some will
have definite opinions.
My only comment is the only bar that bends is at the end of the video, and
not from weight. : )
Regards,
John Casler
TRI-VECTOR 3-D Training Systems
Century City, CA
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-----Original Message-----
From: Supertraining@yahoogroups. [mailto: Supertraining@com yahoogroups. ]com
On Behalf Of deadliftdiva@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:33 PM
To: Supertraining@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [Supertraining] A question about a video on youtube
Sure it would - it would fund their retirement someday :).
Training videos, books, world records, and in some federations, cold hard
cash - appearance fees and prize money. :)
That's why this is a bit suspect - perhaps he was stronger once - and
perhaps the person who put the weights on there is not correct - but
Guinness does not have him listed, and his other things are a bit stuntish -
like phone book tearing, there is a trick to some of it rather than overall
power/strength.
Just saying that if he were truly as strong as the video suggests, he would
indeed make some money. Russia and other countries have had some VERY
lucrative PL and strongman events...drawing Americans and well, the world
overall.
If he truly were this strong, it would only enhance his income and his
reputation to do meets and make money - the questions arise because his
weights are not weighed officially, and the rest of the questions.
The kettlebell org would be smart to sponsor him to do a meet or two, with a
real PL org - and prove their hero - they too would gain from this.
Otherwise it's in the world of fake plates, like many other persons without
the credentials...and if he is truly this strong, that would be a shame,
right? :)
The Phantom
aka Linda Schaefer, RMT/CMT, competing powerlifter Denver, Colorado, USA
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Re: A question about a video on youtube
Posted by: "efreem3407@aol.com" efreem3407@aol.com powerlifter4231
Fri May 18, 2012 9:17 am (PDT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=_z0vcApJzRw
There is also a video of Valentin Dikul deadlifting. Look at how the person who loads the weights on to the bar loads the weights. It looks fake and suspect.
Edwin Freeman, Jr.
San Francisco, USA
-----Original Message-----
From: deadliftdiva <deadliftdiva@comcast.net >
To: Supertraining <Supertraining@yahoogroups. >com
Sent: Wed, May 16, 2012 12:37 pm
Subject: Re: [Supertraining] A question about a video on youtube
Sure it would - it would fund their retirement someday :).
Training videos, books, world records, and in some federations, cold hard cash -
appearance fees and prize money. :)
That's why this is a bit suspect - perhaps he was stronger once - and perhaps
the person who put the weights on there is not correct - but Guinness does not
have him listed, and his other things are a bit stuntish - like phone book
tearing, there is a trick to some of it rather than overall power/strength.
Just saying that if he were truly as strong as the video suggests, he would
indeed make some money. Russia and other countries have had some VERY lucrative
PL and strongman events...drawing Americans and well, the world overall.
If he truly were this strong, it would only enhance his income and his
reputation to do meets and make money - the questions arise because his weights
are not weighed officially, and the rest of the questions.
The kettlebell org would be smart to sponsor him to do a meet or two, with a
real PL org - and prove their hero - they too would gain from this.
Otherwise it's in the world of fake plates, like many other persons without the
credentials...and if he is truly this strong, that would be a shame, right? :)
The Phantom
aka Linda Schaefer, RMT/CMT, competing powerlifter
Denver, Colorado, USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "boris b" <boris_york@yahoo.com >
To: Supertraining@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 4:25:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Supertraining] A question about a video on youtube
Valentin Dikul is for real. He is legitimately very, very strong.
I don't know about the listed weights however - it is a video that was re-loaded
by a kettlebell organization.
The list of very strong individuals who've never competed in sanctioned PL meets
is long and illustrious. We all know that. Seriously, for these individuals,
competing would do nothing positive for the mystique and market they've built
with their ability to odd/unconventional lifts.
Boris Bachmann
Des Moines, IA
_____________________ _________ __
From: " deadliftdiva@comcast.net " < deadliftdiva@comcast.net >
To: Supertraining@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Supertraining] A question about a video on youtube
Well, he's not listed on the Guinness site that I could find. This is not at a
competition of any sort, nor are the plates and bar specified or weighed out on
camera to prove a point here either, which they would be if this were a record
attempt perhaps? I've heard Guinness is pretty meticulous about such things -
someone I know went to a recordbreaker event in Milan, Italy, and told me about
it.
I also find the bar and its loads a bit suspect - plus i would be very surprised
at ANYONE walking out a squat to the front of standards like that for one
thing... the bar and the standards didn't look sufficient to support the
supposed weight in question. I'd also think the bar whip from a bar that is not
a good bar would have substantial effect on a sq that really is in that range.
Why load OL bounce plates instead of metal 50 kg's - the metal are much thinner?
If a person had fake 50 kg bounces though...?
My guess is that those larger "plates" have sand in them or are wooden. Certain
BB mags tend to replace the metal plates except for 1 of them with wood to take
the pictures as it's easier to stand there with 3 wooden and 1 metal weight on
each side. One reason I suspect this? well, nobody needs to make the weights and
bar whip about at the top with a real load like that on that deadlift....I think
it's not real, I think some of it is sand and he's trying to MAKE it look real.
There's more videos of this guy. He's also getting his DL from pads higher than
his feet - which makes it a bit easier.
The barbell bend in the bench and other things make me think perhaps this is
staged. A bounced full rep like that also would be disallowed even in bad PL
feds... and something around 185 or 200 kg would also bend a bar sufficiently to
account for this bend, especially with a less strong barbell.
I did some comparing on videos also with known footage of Konstantin
Konstantinovs for example - and Andy Bolton.
I think it's unlikely this whole deal is for real. I'd ask one good q - with all
the money now in PL meets in Russia and other places, why would a guy like this
NOT show up and weigh in, and officially take all that money? Seriously? :) And
there is the likely answer, if he was for real, he would.
The Phantom
aka Linda Schaefer, RMT/CMT, competing powerlifter
Denver, Colorado, USA
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From: efreem3407@aol.com
To: Supertraining@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 12:21:56 AM
Subject: [Supertraining] A question about a video on youtube
I found this video on YouTube. Is this real or fake? Who is this person?
Valentin Dikul Guinness World Record
http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=ygCRtex_ GDo&NR=1& feature=endscree n&list=PLB02C1F8 F06F782B6
Please share your thoughts.
Edwin Freeman, Jr.
San Francisco, USA
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