Saturday 23 June 2012

[Relationship-Talk] My hubby talks to his Ex

 

Dear all,
I'm new to this community & this is my first post. Me & my hubby were in love for close to 4 years after which we got married. We are married for close to 4 years now. He loves me & cares a lot for me. I do sometimes feel that he doesnt express his love (prbbly the way I want) but he says he is expressing (it in the way he knows). But we do have a past.
WHen we were in love, he was kind of in love with another girl. Probably, in crush I guess. She was mad behind him & even went to the extent of suicide. They never had any physical relnshp but I guess there was a liking for each other. His mom had warned him not to ditch me and he respects his mom a lot. I'm not very sure if it was his love for me or the respect for his mom that made him marry me. I trusted him (& still trust him)that he felt a bond with me. I threw all my relationships, family etc., for this guy & married him. His Ex, after our marriage, married someone else and now has a kid.
After her marriage too, these two were in touch through phone, email & chat. I dint take it seriously though I dint like it. I never told him that I'm not liking it - prbbly, I dont want him to think that I dont trust him. But she has been sending signals indirectly since her marriage that her family life & her hubby isnt very exciting. I suspect if she wanted to convey that if she had married my hubby she would've been good. Few days back, she again told my hubby that she attempted for suicide because of her family problems. I see that these two are talking for a long time (ofcourse not in front of me but after my hubby reached office) & my hubby is helping her emotionally. I somewhere feel intuitively that she is trying to create sympathy for her. I dono where this is gonna lead and how to manage my insecurity. I dono how to react, if at all I should.. Any advises??

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Friday 22 June 2012

[marriagerestoration] Allow the Lord To Lead and Guide You!! Jun. 22, 2012 - Doreen's Daily Delights

 

Allow God To Lead and Guide You!!

"I will go before you and will level the mountains." (Isaiah 45:2).

Do not try to direct your steps. Alloe the Lord to lead and guide you to victory.

Why beat your head against the wall striving to figure it all out? He
says that's all in vain. "It is vain for you to rise up early, To
sit up late, To eat the bread of sorrows; For so He gives His beloved
sleep." (Psalm 127:2).

Why try to force things to happen? Let the Lord handle it. Jesus
said to take the light and easy way.

"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you
rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and
humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke
is easy and my burden is light." (Matthew 11:28-30).

While you go through this situation in your marriage, if God seems to
be resisting you, perhaps it is because you are proudly determined to
have your own way. Wait on the Lord to work on your behalf.
Allow the Lord to lead you towards healing and restoration.

God resists the proud but gives grace to the humble. "Humble
yourselves, therefore, under the mighty hand of God, and he will lift
you up at just the right time. Herein lies the secret of peace. Cast
all your anxiety on him because he cares for you." (1 Peter 5:6-7).

Relax. Let go. And Let God. Allow the Lord to guide you while you
wait upon Him. He will not put you to shame. If you are trusting the
Lord, victory is inevitable. He will not lose this battle.

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[Relationship-Talk] Help please, advice!!

 


Hi everyone.

I am desperately in need of advice and I hope that you can all help me.
When I first met my now wife, I told a lie, I thought nothing of it at the time, but now almost ten years later the lie has grown so big, and her family and all our frinds believed it, yesterday someone found out the truth. I knew that this could happen if someone just knew whom to ask, anyway, I know that the end is near, everyone believed this, and now they will all find out the truth,even those I work with, please help me, I am so ashamed

should I tell her before everyone else does?

what a disaster.

Alex

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Thursday 21 June 2012

[Supertraining] Digest Number 4586

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1.1.
Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy From: Brendon Lowe

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1.1.

Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy

Posted by: "Brendon Lowe" blowe_96@hotmail.com   blowe96

Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:36 am (PDT)




I may be off base here, but a couple fellow students and I did a very archaic study on transient hypertrophy in college. I believe that this type of training stimulates an above average increase in muscle cell cytoplasm, because the cells increase the number of mitochondria. The mitochondria accommodate the large amounts of work in the oxidative phase of exercise so that the cell can create ATP from glucose (or rather Acetyl CoA).

BTW, I have been following the group for seven years now and this is my first contribution. I have really enjoyed the vast amount of information and discussion.

Brendon Lowe
Fort Worth, Texas


On Jun 20, 2012, at 1:16 AM, "Perez, Miguel" <miguel.perez@crbard.com> wrote:

> Ed,
>
> My guess is that the guy's probably training for a contest, or for the beach. Not likely he trains like that all the time.
>
> Miguel Pérez
> Reynosa, Mexico
>
> From: Supertraining@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Supertraining@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of efreem3407@aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 3:16 AM
> To: Supertraining@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Supertraining] Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy
>
> Well one bodybuilder at the gym I was training at was about 275 lbs. huge and ripped. He only did machine training. He never used more than 100 lbs. on any exercise whether it was the cable bench press, cable shoulder press, pulldown, seated row, leg press, machine squat, leg curl, or any other machine. I observed him doing about 100 reps per set on each machine. Then after his weight training he would always do 30 minutes of cardiovascular training. Now he was big and ripped but lifted only light weights with high reps.
>
> If I were to do that I would be a skinny refugee from camp.
>
> I think it was the steroids that were causing him to be huge and ripped with low weight/high rep workouts.
>
> Edwin Freeman, Jr.
> San Francisco, USA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: efreem3407 <efreem3407@aol.com<mailto:efreem3407%40aol.com>>
> To: Supertraining <Supertraining@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Supertraining%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Sat, Jun 16, 2012 5:18 am
> Subject: Re: [Supertraining] Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy
>
> Correct me if I am wrong but I think lean muscle gains correspond to strength
> increases. Any bodybuilder that gains lean muscle should have strength
> increases? Then again, this could be suspect, because I've seen bodybuilders
> using steroids that do only high rep and low weight workouts yet have massive
> amounts of muscle. I've seen bodybuilders do hundreds of reps on machines with
> say 100 lbs. yet still be huge and massive.
>
> I train as a powerlifter. I'm not training to gain a lot of bulk. I am mostly
> training for strength without massive amounts of body weight and bulk increases.
>
> Edwin Freeman, Jr.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: deadliftdiva <deadliftdiva@comcast.net<mailto:deadliftdiva%40comcast.net>>
> To: Supertraining <Supertraining@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Supertraining%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Thu, Jun 14, 2012 9:31 am
> Subject: Re: [Supertraining] Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy
>
> I'm going to jump in here with one point that I think has bearing on the whole
> question: When we measure lean mass, we are not precise. We cannot be. What we
> get is some guess based on measurements which varies and can be misleading - and
>
> I recall Mel's comment long ago that the only truly accurate measure was
> "autopsy". Few would desire to have their lean mass evaluated this way during a
> growth phase in training, so that's clearly out :) .
>
> With the known variance in measuring methods (and here I recall James Krieger's
> good article on measuring that he thoughtfully shared some time ago with this
> group), my thinking is that there is a considerable margin of guessing that
> makes it possible to overestimate how much lean mass has been gained by an
> individual over time. I myself over the years have experienced wildly ranging
> measurements by folks who were said to be expert in such things - considering
> that the measurement of one's bodyfat subcutaneously or measurements to estimate
>
> a guess at overall bodyfat including a visceral estimate would have bearing on a
>
> presumed gain in lean mass by way of deducting the presumed bodyfat on board...
>
> I also once handed Mel a copy of a book that suggested you could 'squat for 6
> weeks and gain 20 pounds of lean hard muscle' and the response was that it was
> entertaining but unlikely to be accurate... Thankfully sq never had that effect
> on me personally or I'd have required more new wardrobes than I have been
> through personally over the years here as a competing powerlifter!
>
> So if we consider that measuring the bodyfat an individual has on board is still
>
> somewhat less effective than we would like, how then can we be sure of lean
> gains that would be based on our best guess of the fat to lean ratio of a
> person? Would not a "lean muscle gain" not be entirely muscle also, but the
> bones themselves responding to the increased loads as well?
>
> Interesting topic, back to reading. :)
>
> The Phantom
> aka Linda Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter
> Denver, Colorado, USA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "kendaiganoneill" <kayoneill@earthlink.net<mailto:kayoneill%40earthlink.net>>
> To: Supertraining@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Supertraining%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:54:05 PM
> Subject: [Supertraining] Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy
>
> Krista's reports of 25-44 lbs of muscle gain within a year for life long
> ectomorphs.
>
> I will dissent, however, on the notion that 20-30 lbs of muscle gain in as
> little as three months are hype. Back from the 1930s into the early 60s many a
> trainee reported 20 or more pounds increase in manly muscle over a three month
> period by means of specializing in 5 sets of 20 reps of breathing squats, some
> adding the Hise shrug. Thrice weekly, consuming nutrient dense whole foods and
> the sole protein supplement of that bygone era: milk.
>
> Breathing squats are especially demanding, certainly no fun save for Masochists.
>
> With each set, one breath between reps 1-5, then 2 deep breaths for reps 6-10,
> three deep breaths for reps 11-15, and - you guessed it - four deep breaths
> between reps 16-20. The immediately onto a picnic bench for sets of 20 reps,
> very light weight dumbbell flyes to expand the rib cage for a big chest.
>
> These days I'll defer to the exciting new work coming out of McMaster University
>
> comparing 1 set of 8-10 1 RM to failure vs 3 sets of 8-10 to failure 80% 1 RM vs
>
> 3 sets of 30 reps to failure with 30% 1 RM. Adding volume at 80% and 30%
> produced essentially equal hypertrophy, both significantly greater than 1 set to
>
> failure (a failed idea).
>
> In my personal experience and that of training others, hitting significant
> annual hypertrophy is far more easily facilitated when rep schemes, cadence or
> tempo, stage sets, drop sets, using 30-80% 1 RM are all intelligently and
> strategically applied to one end: avoiding plateaus, instead sustainable
> anabolism.
>
> --- In Supertraining@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Supertraining%40yahoogroups.com> , Krista Scott-Dixon <kristascottdixon@...>
>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Anthony Pitruzzello
> > <tonypit45@...> wrote:
> > > Hello Everyone,
> > >
> > > I recently posted a question about rate of hypertrophy – basically, what are
>
> > > the optimal realistic results a person can expect, vs. the endless claims in
>
> > > the muscle mags, e.g., "Gain 20-30 pounds of lean muscle mass in six
> > > weeks!!!" I compared the responses with some other data, and I thought I
> > > would share it with the group.
> > >
> >
> > I work with John Berardi at Precision Nutrition, which runs a
> > muscle-gaining Scrawny to Brawny program. It's a one-year program that
> > focuses on step-by-step habit acquisition and entrainment, like our
> > other fat-loss program Lean Eating. We run a contest that awards money
> > to top finishers -- people who dramatically transform their bodies.
> >
> > Looking at our recent 12-month cohorts, our top finalists put on
> > between 25-44 lbs in a year. These are ectomorphs who are "lifetime
> > scrawnies", so they gain mass relatively slowly -- some made notable
> > transformations even with relatively less muscle gain, because small
> > amounts of mass make a big difference on a shorter/skinnier frame.
> > This is with a highly structured eating and training program, a coach,
> > and daily check-ins (lessons and habits). All material is
> > science/research-based as you might expect from JB and PN.
> >
> > Interestingly, our 6-month program was not as dissimilar as you would
> > expect -- it doesn't seem to be a linear scale.
> >
> > Here are finalists from our early, 6-month program:
> > http://www.precisionnutrition.com/s2b-winners-2010
> >
> > Here are finalists from our 12-month program that begin in May 2011.
> > http://www.scrawnytobrawny.com/may-2011-finalists
> >
> > Krista
> > Toronto, ON
> >
> > --------------------
> > Krista Scott-Dixon, PhD
> > Lean Eating Program Director
> > PrecisionNutrition.com
> > krista@...
> >
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[marriagerestoration] ANOTHER RESTORATION!! - June 21, 2012 - Doreen's Daily Delights

 

ANOTHER RESTORATION - Dear Pastor Doreen

I am writing to tell you that my husband has returned home.
He told me he knew I was praying because he was tormented and
could not sleep the strange bed. He had many dreams and visions and was very much afraid so he decided to return to his marriage. Praise God.

I want to thank God for giving me the desires of my heart.
I also want to thank you for your weekly counseling and I want to wish
you a happy birthday today. My son's birthday is also June 21st.
I pray the Lord will continue to bless you and prosper you even as your soul prospers.

You could use my first name. Simone
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This Too Will Pass

My friends, do you believe your trials WILL NOT last? Well, these are
God's promises, that your trials will only last for a while. Believe
God. You will come out as gold. This too will pass.

"In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while you may
have had to suffer grief in all kinds of trials. These have come so
that your faith — of greater worth than gold, which perishes even
though refined by fire — may be proved genuine and may result in
praise, glory and honor when Jesus Christ is revealed." (1 Peter 1:6-
7).

The Bible says that even `Heaven and earth shall pass away,
but God's words shall not pass away." (Matthew 24:35)

When facing a storm, remember the four words, this too shall pass.
It's a Biblical fact. But also remember the next six words: God's
words shall NOT pass away.

No matter how difficult your times of trial, you'll find comfort and
encouragement knowing and believing that "This Too Shall Pass."
My friends, do you believe your trials WILL NOT last? Well,
these are God's promises, that your trials will only last for a while.

Believe God. You will come out as gold. This too shall pass.
Do not give way to discouragement, anxiety and fear. You will
get through these times because at this very moment God is
working on your behalf.

As hard as it may be sometimes to believe, our trials only last "for a
little while." When we view our life on the time scale of eternity,
we see our trials as a quick flash. But even these "flashes" of
trials have a purpose - "so that your faith...may be proved genuine."

We need to continue to focus on Christ and not on our circumstances.
Some of us are doing fine. God wants us to be faithful. He has given
us a task. The task of praying your spouse out of hell.

The Lord will honor your prayers and bring them out of disobedience.
He will remove the scales from their eyes and soften their hearts. Be
obedient to Christ and continue to pray for your spouse. He will
give you the strength you need to do this, if you will only ask of
Him.

I want to thank those who have been assisting me in this quest for the healing of marriages. Without your prayers and financial support, there is no way I would be able to encourage and minister to many. I thank God daily for your obedience and faithfulness.

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[Relationship-Talk] happy to be part of the group

 


Happy to be in the group thanks

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Wednesday 20 June 2012

[Relationship-Talk] Why am I obsessed with her?

 

I am sending this in case you did not receive my attempt to post last evening.  I tried to post from the home page ofo the group site.
 
Hi there,
 
I have been trying to get close to an Asian woman, same age (45) & religion (Catholic) as me. She is very religious, goes to church daily and is heavily involved in her church. The best part about her is that she's soft-spoken, as I am a shy, introverted person.
 
I have tried to go out with her twice, the results of both were a failure. The first time, last August, we were at a restaurant for their jazz night, her favorite music. She told me the day before she was bringing a friend along. She brought her boyfriend!!! I felt like a 5th wheel the whole time. The second time, last March, I asked her out for bicycle riding. I shouldn't have asked her while she was on her way someplace. But she called me back a minute after I left the message, so I thought I was calling at a good time. She reacted with asking "what if it's too cold?" She said she'd check her calendar and get back to me. In my opinion, she had no intention of agreeing to do that or any activity I had suggested. She waited until the day before we were supposed to get together, when she knew I'd be at work, to leave the voicemail message telling me she couldn't have done it anyway.
  
A month ago, she shared with me, unsolicited, that she is considering getting back with an on again/off again boyfriend, the only one with whom she's had an amicable parting. He has always been calling her for the 9 years they've known each other. They had been exercising together for the past few weeks, before he started his new job. They break up because he won't commit because he does contract work.
 
So why keep trying? Because there's no other woman who is a viable option in my life right now. A
ny sign that a woman gives me is golden. When I gave her a goodbye hug at her birthday party last February, she said to me "let's hang out". She said it twice in case I didn't hear her the first time. I was shocked because she was in that relationship. She broke it off with the 1st guy in January, as I would find out the following week. I must have these strong feelings for her, because everytime I see a car that looks like hers, I look at it to see if it's hers. Doesn't matter what part of town, doesn't matter what time of day. Then there's the fact that I have never had a girlfriend.
 
We have communicated almost weekly since the party. It has progressed from superficial to somewhat deep and personal. Should I try again? Should I hope for her to come to see me in a different light? Or stop being friends with her altogether? The biggest question, why am I obsessed with her? And what can I do to stop it?
 
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[Supertraining] Digest Number 4585

Messages In This Digest (5 Messages)

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1.1.

Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy

Posted by: "Ralph Giarnella" ragiarn@yahoo.com   ragiarn

Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:13 am (PDT)



newton, abbr. N, unit of force in the mks system of units, which is based on the metric system; 

it is the force that produces an acceleration of 1 meter per second per second when exerted on a mass of 1 kilogram. The newton is named for Sir Isaac Newton.

Ralph Giarnella MD
Southington Ct. USA 

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From: David Salisbury <jetskers@yahoo.com>
To: "Supertraining@yahoogroups.com" <Supertraining@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 1:33 PM
Subject: [Supertraining] Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy


 

Hmmm... Newtons is a measure of force, but I'm not so sure it's a way
of measuring strength, as it doesn't take into account the amount of time.
I can be as strong as a horse for the first 1/4 second, but the rate of 
acceleration on the object will quickly degrade, but other, "stronger"
people can keep it accelerating longer.  Newtons.. but for how long?

Dave Salisbury, Boulder, CO

 
Posted by: "Giovanni Ciriani" Giovanni.Ciriani@Gmail.com   gciriani
Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:35 pm (PDT)
I don't think it's a good idea to come up with a new definition of strength
just for Supertraining. Usually strength is measured in terms of force,
i.e. either Newtons (N), Kilogram weight (Kg) of Pound weight (Lb).
Giovanni Ciriani - West Hartford, CT - USA

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1.2.

Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy

Posted by: "Giovanni Ciriani" Giovanni.Ciriani@Gmail.com   gciriani

Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:13 am (PDT)



You are right, Obviously one has to define the context and the rules under
which you measure the force, and that would clarify what we are talking
about. That's why we normally compare an athletic performance with a like
athletic performance with the same rules.
Giovanni Ciriani - West Hartford, CT - USA

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 1:33 PM, David Salisbury <jetskers@yahoo.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
> Hmmm... Newtons is a measure of force, but I'm not so sure it's a way
> of measuring strength, as it doesn't take into account the amount of time.
> I can be as strong as a horse for the first 1/4 second, but the rate of
> acceleration on the object will quickly degrade, but other, "stronger"
> people can keep it accelerating longer. Newtons.. but for how long?
>
> Dave Salisbury, Boulder, CO
>
>
> Posted by: "Giovanni Ciriani" Giovanni.Ciriani@Gmail.com gciriani
> Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:35 pm (PDT)
>
> I don't think it's a good idea to come up with a new definition of strength
> just for Supertraining. Usually strength is measured in terms of force,
> i.e. either Newtons (N), Kilogram weight (Kg) of Pound weight (Lb).
> Giovanni Ciriani - West Hartford, CT - USA
>
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>
>
>

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1.3.

Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy

Posted by: "efreem3407@aol.com" efreem3407@aol.com   powerlifter4231

Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:15 am (PDT)




Well one bodybuilder at the gym I was training at was about 275 lbs. huge and ripped. He only did machine training. He never used more than 100 lbs. on any exercise whether it was the cable bench press, cable shoulder press, pulldown, seated row, leg press, machine squat, leg curl, or any other machine. I observed him doing about 100 reps per set on each machine. Then after his weight training he would always do 30 minutes of cardiovascular training. Now he was big and ripped but lifted only light weights with high reps.

If I were to do that I would be a skinny refugee from camp.

I think it was the steroids that were causing him to be huge and ripped with low weight/high rep workouts.

Edwin Freeman, Jr.
San Francisco, USA

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To: Supertraining <Supertraining@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Jun 16, 2012 5:18 am
Subject: Re: [Supertraining] Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy

Correct me if I am wrong but I think lean muscle gains correspond to strength
increases. Any bodybuilder that gains lean muscle should have strength
increases? Then again, this could be suspect, because I've seen bodybuilders
using steroids that do only high rep and low weight workouts yet have massive
amounts of muscle. I've seen bodybuilders do hundreds of reps on machines with
say 100 lbs. yet still be huge and massive.

I train as a powerlifter. I'm not training to gain a lot of bulk. I am mostly
training for strength without massive amounts of body weight and bulk increases.

Edwin Freeman, Jr.

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From: deadliftdiva <deadliftdiva@comcast.net>
To: Supertraining <Supertraining@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Jun 14, 2012 9:31 am
Subject: Re: [Supertraining] Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy

I'm going to jump in here with one point that I think has bearing on the whole
question: When we measure lean mass, we are not precise. We cannot be. What we
get is some guess based on measurements which varies and can be misleading - and

I recall Mel's comment long ago that the only truly accurate measure was
"autopsy". Few would desire to have their lean mass evaluated this way during a
growth phase in training, so that's clearly out :) .

With the known variance in measuring methods (and here I recall James Krieger's
good article on measuring that he thoughtfully shared some time ago with this
group), my thinking is that there is a considerable margin of guessing that
makes it possible to overestimate how much lean mass has been gained by an
individual over time. I myself over the years have experienced wildly ranging
measurements by folks who were said to be expert in such things - considering
that the measurement of one's bodyfat subcutaneously or measurements to estimate

a guess at overall bodyfat including a visceral estimate would have bearing on a

presumed gain in lean mass by way of deducting the presumed bodyfat on board...

I also once handed Mel a copy of a book that suggested you could 'squat for 6
weeks and gain 20 pounds of lean hard muscle' and the response was that it was
entertaining but unlikely to be accurate... Thankfully sq never had that effect
on me personally or I'd have required more new wardrobes than I have been
through personally over the years here as a competing powerlifter!

So if we consider that measuring the bodyfat an individual has on board is still

somewhat less effective than we would like, how then can we be sure of lean
gains that would be based on our best guess of the fat to lean ratio of a
person? Would not a "lean muscle gain" not be entirely muscle also, but the
bones themselves responding to the increased loads as well?

Interesting topic, back to reading. :)

The Phantom
aka Linda Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter
Denver, Colorado, USA

----- Original Message -----
From: "kendaiganoneill" <kayoneill@earthlink.net>
To: Supertraining@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:54:05 PM
Subject: [Supertraining] Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy

Krista's reports of 25-44 lbs of muscle gain within a year for life long
ectomorphs.

I will dissent, however, on the notion that 20-30 lbs of muscle gain in as
little as three months are hype. Back from the 1930s into the early 60s many a
trainee reported 20 or more pounds increase in manly muscle over a three month
period by means of specializing in 5 sets of 20 reps of breathing squats, some
adding the Hise shrug. Thrice weekly, consuming nutrient dense whole foods and
the sole protein supplement of that bygone era: milk.

Breathing squats are especially demanding, certainly no fun save for Masochists.

With each set, one breath between reps 1-5, then 2 deep breaths for reps 6-10,
three deep breaths for reps 11-15, and - you guessed it - four deep breaths
between reps 16-20. The immediately onto a picnic bench for sets of 20 reps,
very light weight dumbbell flyes to expand the rib cage for a big chest.

These days I'll defer to the exciting new work coming out of McMaster University

comparing 1 set of 8-10 1 RM to failure vs 3 sets of 8-10 to failure 80% 1 RM vs

3 sets of 30 reps to failure with 30% 1 RM. Adding volume at 80% and 30%
produced essentially equal hypertrophy, both significantly greater than 1 set to

failure (a failed idea).

In my personal experience and that of training others, hitting significant
annual hypertrophy is far more easily facilitated when rep schemes, cadence or
tempo, stage sets, drop sets, using 30-80% 1 RM are all intelligently and
strategically applied to one end: avoiding plateaus, instead sustainable
anabolism.

--- In Supertraining@yahoogroups.com , Krista Scott-Dixon <kristascottdixon@...>

wrote:
>
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Anthony Pitruzzello
> <tonypit45@...> wrote:
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > I recently posted a question about rate of hypertrophy – basically, what are

> > the optimal realistic results a person can expect, vs. the endless claims in

> > the muscle mags, e.g., "Gain 20-30 pounds of lean muscle mass in six
> > weeks!!!" I compared the responses with some other data, and I thought I
> > would share it with the group.
> >
>
> I work with John Berardi at Precision Nutrition, which runs a
> muscle-gaining Scrawny to Brawny program. It's a one-year program that
> focuses on step-by-step habit acquisition and entrainment, like our
> other fat-loss program Lean Eating. We run a contest that awards money
> to top finishers -- people who dramatically transform their bodies.
>
> Looking at our recent 12-month cohorts, our top finalists put on
> between 25-44 lbs in a year. These are ectomorphs who are "lifetime
> scrawnies", so they gain mass relatively slowly -- some made notable
> transformations even with relatively less muscle gain, because small
> amounts of mass make a big difference on a shorter/skinnier frame.
> This is with a highly structured eating and training program, a coach,
> and daily check-ins (lessons and habits). All material is
> science/research-based as you might expect from JB and PN.
>
> Interestingly, our 6-month program was not as dissimilar as you would
> expect -- it doesn't seem to be a linear scale.
>
> Here are finalists from our early, 6-month program:
> http://www.precisionnutrition.com/s2b-winners-2010
>
> Here are finalists from our 12-month program that begin in May 2011.
> http://www.scrawnytobrawny.com/may-2011-finalists
>
> Krista
> Toronto, ON
>
> --------------------
> Krista Scott-Dixon, PhD
> Lean Eating Program Director
> PrecisionNutrition.com
> krista@...
>

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1.4.

Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy

Posted by: "Perez, Miguel" miguel.perez@crbard.com   metalhead2_mx

Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:16 pm (PDT)



Ed,

My guess is that the guy's probably training for a contest, or for the beach. Not likely he trains like that all the time.

Miguel Pérez
Reynosa, Mexico

From: Supertraining@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Supertraining@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of efreem3407@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 3:16 AM
To: Supertraining@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Supertraining] Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy

Well one bodybuilder at the gym I was training at was about 275 lbs. huge and ripped. He only did machine training. He never used more than 100 lbs. on any exercise whether it was the cable bench press, cable shoulder press, pulldown, seated row, leg press, machine squat, leg curl, or any other machine. I observed him doing about 100 reps per set on each machine. Then after his weight training he would always do 30 minutes of cardiovascular training. Now he was big and ripped but lifted only light weights with high reps.

If I were to do that I would be a skinny refugee from camp.

I think it was the steroids that were causing him to be huge and ripped with low weight/high rep workouts.

Edwin Freeman, Jr.
San Francisco, USA

-----Original Message-----
From: efreem3407 <efreem3407@aol.com<mailto:efreem3407%40aol.com>>
To: Supertraining <Supertraining@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Supertraining%40yahoogroups.com>>
Sent: Sat, Jun 16, 2012 5:18 am
Subject: Re: [Supertraining] Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy

Correct me if I am wrong but I think lean muscle gains correspond to strength
increases. Any bodybuilder that gains lean muscle should have strength
increases? Then again, this could be suspect, because I've seen bodybuilders
using steroids that do only high rep and low weight workouts yet have massive
amounts of muscle. I've seen bodybuilders do hundreds of reps on machines with
say 100 lbs. yet still be huge and massive.

I train as a powerlifter. I'm not training to gain a lot of bulk. I am mostly
training for strength without massive amounts of body weight and bulk increases.

Edwin Freeman, Jr.

-----Original Message-----
From: deadliftdiva <deadliftdiva@comcast.net<mailto:deadliftdiva%40comcast.net>>
To: Supertraining <Supertraining@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Supertraining%40yahoogroups.com>>
Sent: Thu, Jun 14, 2012 9:31 am
Subject: Re: [Supertraining] Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy

I'm going to jump in here with one point that I think has bearing on the whole
question: When we measure lean mass, we are not precise. We cannot be. What we
get is some guess based on measurements which varies and can be misleading - and

I recall Mel's comment long ago that the only truly accurate measure was
"autopsy". Few would desire to have their lean mass evaluated this way during a
growth phase in training, so that's clearly out :) .

With the known variance in measuring methods (and here I recall James Krieger's
good article on measuring that he thoughtfully shared some time ago with this
group), my thinking is that there is a considerable margin of guessing that
makes it possible to overestimate how much lean mass has been gained by an
individual over time. I myself over the years have experienced wildly ranging
measurements by folks who were said to be expert in such things - considering
that the measurement of one's bodyfat subcutaneously or measurements to estimate

a guess at overall bodyfat including a visceral estimate would have bearing on a

presumed gain in lean mass by way of deducting the presumed bodyfat on board...

I also once handed Mel a copy of a book that suggested you could 'squat for 6
weeks and gain 20 pounds of lean hard muscle' and the response was that it was
entertaining but unlikely to be accurate... Thankfully sq never had that effect
on me personally or I'd have required more new wardrobes than I have been
through personally over the years here as a competing powerlifter!

So if we consider that measuring the bodyfat an individual has on board is still

somewhat less effective than we would like, how then can we be sure of lean
gains that would be based on our best guess of the fat to lean ratio of a
person? Would not a "lean muscle gain" not be entirely muscle also, but the
bones themselves responding to the increased loads as well?

Interesting topic, back to reading. :)

The Phantom
aka Linda Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter
Denver, Colorado, USA

----- Original Message -----
From: "kendaiganoneill" <kayoneill@earthlink.net<mailto:kayoneill%40earthlink.net>>
To: Supertraining@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Supertraining%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:54:05 PM
Subject: [Supertraining] Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy

Krista's reports of 25-44 lbs of muscle gain within a year for life long
ectomorphs.

I will dissent, however, on the notion that 20-30 lbs of muscle gain in as
little as three months are hype. Back from the 1930s into the early 60s many a
trainee reported 20 or more pounds increase in manly muscle over a three month
period by means of specializing in 5 sets of 20 reps of breathing squats, some
adding the Hise shrug. Thrice weekly, consuming nutrient dense whole foods and
the sole protein supplement of that bygone era: milk.

Breathing squats are especially demanding, certainly no fun save for Masochists.

With each set, one breath between reps 1-5, then 2 deep breaths for reps 6-10,
three deep breaths for reps 11-15, and - you guessed it - four deep breaths
between reps 16-20. The immediately onto a picnic bench for sets of 20 reps,
very light weight dumbbell flyes to expand the rib cage for a big chest.

These days I'll defer to the exciting new work coming out of McMaster University

comparing 1 set of 8-10 1 RM to failure vs 3 sets of 8-10 to failure 80% 1 RM vs

3 sets of 30 reps to failure with 30% 1 RM. Adding volume at 80% and 30%
produced essentially equal hypertrophy, both significantly greater than 1 set to

failure (a failed idea).

In my personal experience and that of training others, hitting significant
annual hypertrophy is far more easily facilitated when rep schemes, cadence or
tempo, stage sets, drop sets, using 30-80% 1 RM are all intelligently and
strategically applied to one end: avoiding plateaus, instead sustainable
anabolism.

--- In Supertraining@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Supertraining%40yahoogroups.com> , Krista Scott-Dixon <kristascottdixon@...>

wrote:
>
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Anthony Pitruzzello
> <tonypit45@...> wrote:
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > I recently posted a question about rate of hypertrophy – basically, what are

> > the optimal realistic results a person can expect, vs. the endless claims in

> > the muscle mags, e.g., "Gain 20-30 pounds of lean muscle mass in six
> > weeks!!!" I compared the responses with some other data, and I thought I
> > would share it with the group.
> >
>
> I work with John Berardi at Precision Nutrition, which runs a
> muscle-gaining Scrawny to Brawny program. It's a one-year program that
> focuses on step-by-step habit acquisition and entrainment, like our
> other fat-loss program Lean Eating. We run a contest that awards money
> to top finishers -- people who dramatically transform their bodies.
>
> Looking at our recent 12-month cohorts, our top finalists put on
> between 25-44 lbs in a year. These are ectomorphs who are "lifetime
> scrawnies", so they gain mass relatively slowly -- some made notable
> transformations even with relatively less muscle gain, because small
> amounts of mass make a big difference on a shorter/skinnier frame.
> This is with a highly structured eating and training program, a coach,
> and daily check-ins (lessons and habits). All material is
> science/research-based as you might expect from JB and PN.
>
> Interestingly, our 6-month program was not as dissimilar as you would
> expect -- it doesn't seem to be a linear scale.
>
> Here are finalists from our early, 6-month program:
> http://www.precisionnutrition.com/s2b-winners-2010
>
> Here are finalists from our 12-month program that begin in May 2011.
> http://www.scrawnytobrawny.com/may-2011-finalists
>
> Krista
> Toronto, ON
>
> --------------------
> Krista Scott-Dixon, PhD
> Lean Eating Program Director
> PrecisionNutrition.com
> krista@...
>

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Announceme​nt for Special Issue on Swimming, J Sport Sci & Me

Posted by: "hakan" hakan@uludag.edu.tr   hakangur2001

Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:13 am (PDT)



SPECIAL ISSUE ON SWIMMING

In a major attempt to emphasize the importance of research and
evidence-based practical information in advancing all aspects of
swimming performance, the Journal of Sports Science and Medicine will
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world's most popular sports enjoyed by millions of people of all ages
and abilities. Nowadays there is also a great interest in other types of
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3) Mechanical and physiological components of fatigue
4) Hypoxic training
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6) Dry-land vs. aquatic training
7) Expertise in swimming, start and turn
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