Saturday 16 June 2012

[Supertraining] Digest Number 4581

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1a.
Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy From: efreem3407@aol.com

Message

1a.

Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy

Posted by: "efreem3407@aol.com" efreem3407@aol.com   powerlifter4231

Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:17 am (PDT)



Correct me if I am wrong but I think lean muscle gains correspond to strength increases. Any bodybuilder that gains lean muscle should have strength increases? Then again, this could be suspect, because I've seen bodybuilders using steroids that do only high rep and low weight workouts yet have massive amounts of muscle. I've seen bodybuilders do hundreds of reps on machines with say 100 lbs. yet still be huge and massive.

I train as a powerlifter. I'm not training to gain a lot of bulk. I am mostly training for strength without massive amounts of body weight and bulk increases.

Edwin Freeman, Jr.

-----Original Message-----
From: deadliftdiva <deadliftdiva@comcast.net>
To: Supertraining <Supertraining@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Jun 14, 2012 9:31 am
Subject: Re: [Supertraining] Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy

I'm going to jump in here with one point that I think has bearing on the whole
question: When we measure lean mass, we are not precise. We cannot be. What we
get is some guess based on measurements which varies and can be misleading - and
I recall Mel's comment long ago that the only truly accurate measure was
"autopsy". Few would desire to have their lean mass evaluated this way during a
growth phase in training, so that's clearly out :) .

With the known variance in measuring methods (and here I recall James Krieger's
good article on measuring that he thoughtfully shared some time ago with this
group), my thinking is that there is a considerable margin of guessing that
makes it possible to overestimate how much lean mass has been gained by an
individual over time. I myself over the years have experienced wildly ranging
measurements by folks who were said to be expert in such things - considering
that the measurement of one's bodyfat subcutaneously or measurements to estimate
a guess at overall bodyfat including a visceral estimate would have bearing on a
presumed gain in lean mass by way of deducting the presumed bodyfat on board...

I also once handed Mel a copy of a book that suggested you could 'squat for 6
weeks and gain 20 pounds of lean hard muscle' and the response was that it was
entertaining but unlikely to be accurate... Thankfully sq never had that effect
on me personally or I'd have required more new wardrobes than I have been
through personally over the years here as a competing powerlifter!

So if we consider that measuring the bodyfat an individual has on board is still
somewhat less effective than we would like, how then can we be sure of lean
gains that would be based on our best guess of the fat to lean ratio of a
person? Would not a "lean muscle gain" not be entirely muscle also, but the
bones themselves responding to the increased loads as well?

Interesting topic, back to reading. :)

The Phantom
aka Linda Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter
Denver, Colorado, USA

----- Original Message -----
From: "kendaiganoneill" <kayoneill@earthlink.net>
To: Supertraining@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:54:05 PM
Subject: [Supertraining] Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy

Krista's reports of 25-44 lbs of muscle gain within a year for life long
ectomorphs.

I will dissent, however, on the notion that 20-30 lbs of muscle gain in as
little as three months are hype. Back from the 1930s into the early 60s many a
trainee reported 20 or more pounds increase in manly muscle over a three month
period by means of specializing in 5 sets of 20 reps of breathing squats, some
adding the Hise shrug. Thrice weekly, consuming nutrient dense whole foods and
the sole protein supplement of that bygone era: milk.

Breathing squats are especially demanding, certainly no fun save for Masochists.
With each set, one breath between reps 1-5, then 2 deep breaths for reps 6-10,
three deep breaths for reps 11-15, and - you guessed it - four deep breaths
between reps 16-20. The immediately onto a picnic bench for sets of 20 reps,
very light weight dumbbell flyes to expand the rib cage for a big chest.

These days I'll defer to the exciting new work coming out of McMaster University
comparing 1 set of 8-10 1 RM to failure vs 3 sets of 8-10 to failure 80% 1 RM vs
3 sets of 30 reps to failure with 30% 1 RM. Adding volume at 80% and 30%
produced essentially equal hypertrophy, both significantly greater than 1 set to
failure (a failed idea).

In my personal experience and that of training others, hitting significant
annual hypertrophy is far more easily facilitated when rep schemes, cadence or
tempo, stage sets, drop sets, using 30-80% 1 RM are all intelligently and
strategically applied to one end: avoiding plateaus, instead sustainable
anabolism.

--- In Supertraining@yahoogroups.com , Krista Scott-Dixon <kristascottdixon@...>
wrote:
>
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Anthony Pitruzzello
> <tonypit45@...> wrote:
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > I recently posted a question about rate of hypertrophy – basically, what are

> > the optimal realistic results a person can expect, vs. the endless claims in

> > the muscle mags, e.g., "Gain 20-30 pounds of lean muscle mass in six
> > weeks!!!" I compared the responses with some other data, and I thought I
> > would share it with the group.
> >
>
> I work with John Berardi at Precision Nutrition, which runs a
> muscle-gaining Scrawny to Brawny program. It's a one-year program that
> focuses on step-by-step habit acquisition and entrainment, like our
> other fat-loss program Lean Eating. We run a contest that awards money
> to top finishers -- people who dramatically transform their bodies.
>
> Looking at our recent 12-month cohorts, our top finalists put on
> between 25-44 lbs in a year. These are ectomorphs who are "lifetime
> scrawnies", so they gain mass relatively slowly -- some made notable
> transformations even with relatively less muscle gain, because small
> amounts of mass make a big difference on a shorter/skinnier frame.
> This is with a highly structured eating and training program, a coach,
> and daily check-ins (lessons and habits). All material is
> science/research-based as you might expect from JB and PN.
>
> Interestingly, our 6-month program was not as dissimilar as you would
> expect -- it doesn't seem to be a linear scale.
>
> Here are finalists from our early, 6-month program:
> http://www.precisionnutrition.com/s2b-winners-2010
>
> Here are finalists from our 12-month program that begin in May 2011.
> http://www.scrawnytobrawny.com/may-2011-finalists
>
> Krista
> Toronto, ON
>
> --------------------
> Krista Scott-Dixon, PhD
> Lean Eating Program Director
> PrecisionNutrition.com
> krista@...
>

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Friday 15 June 2012

[Supertraining] Digest Number 4580

Messages In This Digest (2 Messages)

1a.
Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy From: deadliftdiva@comcast.net
1b.
Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy From: Ralph Giarnella

Messages

1a.

Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy

Posted by: "deadliftdiva@comcast.net" deadliftdiva@comcast.net

Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:31 am (PDT)



I'm going to jump in here with one point that I think has bearing on the whole question: When we measure lean mass, we are not precise. We cannot be. What we get is some guess based on measurements which varies and can be misleading - and I recall Mel's comment long ago that the only truly accurate measure was "autopsy". Few would desire to have their lean mass evaluated this way during a growth phase in training, so that's clearly out :) .

With the known variance in measuring methods (and here I recall James Krieger's good article on measuring that he thoughtfully shared some time ago with this group), my thinking is that there is a considerable margin of guessing that makes it possible to overestimate how much lean mass has been gained by an individual over time. I myself over the years have experienced wildly ranging measurements by folks who were said to be expert in such things - considering that the measurement of one's bodyfat subcutaneously or measurements to estimate a guess at overall bodyfat including a visceral estimate would have bearing on a presumed gain in lean mass by way of deducting the presumed bodyfat on board...

I also once handed Mel a copy of a book that suggested you could 'squat for 6 weeks and gain 20 pounds of lean hard muscle' and the response was that it was entertaining but unlikely to be accurate... Thankfully sq never had that effect on me personally or I'd have required more new wardrobes than I have been through personally over the years here as a competing powerlifter!

So if we consider that measuring the bodyfat an individual has on board is still somewhat less effective than we would like, how then can we be sure of lean gains that would be based on our best guess of the fat to lean ratio of a person? Would not a "lean muscle gain" not be entirely muscle also, but the bones themselves responding to the increased loads as well?

Interesting topic, back to reading. :)

The Phantom
aka Linda Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter
Denver, Colorado, USA

----- Original Message -----
From: "kendaiganoneill" <kayoneill@earthlink.net>
To: Supertraining@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:54:05 PM
Subject: [Supertraining] Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy

Krista's reports of 25-44 lbs of muscle gain within a year for life long ectomorphs.

I will dissent, however, on the notion that 20-30 lbs of muscle gain in as little as three months are hype. Back from the 1930s into the early 60s many a trainee reported 20 or more pounds increase in manly muscle over a three month period by means of specializing in 5 sets of 20 reps of breathing squats, some adding the Hise shrug. Thrice weekly, consuming nutrient dense whole foods and the sole protein supplement of that bygone era: milk.

Breathing squats are especially demanding, certainly no fun save for Masochists. With each set, one breath between reps 1-5, then 2 deep breaths for reps 6-10, three deep breaths for reps 11-15, and - you guessed it - four deep breaths between reps 16-20. The immediately onto a picnic bench for sets of 20 reps, very light weight dumbbell flyes to expand the rib cage for a big chest.

These days I'll defer to the exciting new work coming out of McMaster University comparing 1 set of 8-10 1 RM to failure vs 3 sets of 8-10 to failure 80% 1 RM vs 3 sets of 30 reps to failure with 30% 1 RM. Adding volume at 80% and 30% produced essentially equal hypertrophy, both significantly greater than 1 set to failure (a failed idea).

In my personal experience and that of training others, hitting significant annual hypertrophy is far more easily facilitated when rep schemes, cadence or tempo, stage sets, drop sets, using 30-80% 1 RM are all intelligently and strategically applied to one end: avoiding plateaus, instead sustainable anabolism.

--- In Supertraining@yahoogroups.com , Krista Scott-Dixon <kristascottdixon@...> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Anthony Pitruzzello
> <tonypit45@...> wrote:
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > I recently posted a question about rate of hypertrophy – basically, what are
> > the optimal realistic results a person can expect, vs. the endless claims in
> > the muscle mags, e.g., "Gain 20-30 pounds of lean muscle mass in six
> > weeks!!!" I compared the responses with some other data, and I thought I
> > would share it with the group.
> >
>
> I work with John Berardi at Precision Nutrition, which runs a
> muscle-gaining Scrawny to Brawny program. It's a one-year program that
> focuses on step-by-step habit acquisition and entrainment, like our
> other fat-loss program Lean Eating. We run a contest that awards money
> to top finishers -- people who dramatically transform their bodies.
>
> Looking at our recent 12-month cohorts, our top finalists put on
> between 25-44 lbs in a year. These are ectomorphs who are "lifetime
> scrawnies", so they gain mass relatively slowly -- some made notable
> transformations even with relatively less muscle gain, because small
> amounts of mass make a big difference on a shorter/skinnier frame.
> This is with a highly structured eating and training program, a coach,
> and daily check-ins (lessons and habits). All material is
> science/research-based as you might expect from JB and PN.
>
> Interestingly, our 6-month program was not as dissimilar as you would
> expect -- it doesn't seem to be a linear scale.
>
> Here are finalists from our early, 6-month program:
> http://www.precisionnutrition.com/s2b-winners-2010
>
> Here are finalists from our 12-month program that begin in May 2011.
> http://www.scrawnytobrawny.com/may-2011-finalists
>
> Krista
> Toronto, ON
>
> --------------------
> Krista Scott-Dixon, PhD
> Lean Eating Program Director
> PrecisionNutrition.com
> krista@...
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

1b.

Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy

Posted by: "Ralph Giarnella" ragiarn@yahoo.com   ragiarn

Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:22 pm (PDT)



Thank you to every one has contributed to this discussion. I find it very useful.  I keep hearing individuals stating that the reason they have not lost as much weight as they would like is because that some of their fat turned into muscle, this after only a few weeks of exercise.

The skin fold caliper measuring is extremely imprecise and is based on formulae that make certain assumptions. The measurements can be very imprecise. Too much pressure on the calipers will give loser skin fold thickness.  Skin fold thickness does not account for intramuscular or intrabdominal (visceral fat).  An lastly these measurements do not account for the most abundant element in the body namely water. The assumption is always that muscle accounts for any change in fat free mass without accounting for shifts in fluid mass.  

Other than autopsy the real gold standard is underwater weighing but even that is subject to calculations.

Perhaps the best study for my purposes, since I am generally not dealing with weight lifter, is the study looking at high school and college athletes post by one of the earlier posters.  

Ralph Giarnella MD
Southington Ct. USA 

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From: "deadliftdiva@comcast.net" <deadliftdiva@comcast.net>
To: Supertraining@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Supertraining] Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy


 
I'm going to jump in here with one point that I think has bearing on the whole question: When we measure lean mass, we are not precise. We cannot be. What we get is some guess based on measurements which varies and can be misleading - and I recall Mel's comment long ago that the only truly accurate measure was "autopsy". Few would desire to have their lean mass evaluated this way during a growth phase in training, so that's clearly out :) .

With the known variance in measuring methods (and here I recall James Krieger's good article on measuring that he thoughtfully shared some time ago with this group), my thinking is that there is a considerable margin of guessing that makes it possible to overestimate how much lean mass has been gained by an individual over time. I myself over the years have experienced wildly ranging measurements by folks who were said to be expert in such things - considering that the measurement of one's bodyfat subcutaneously or measurements to estimate a guess at overall bodyfat including a visceral estimate would have bearing on a presumed gain in lean mass by way of deducting the presumed bodyfat on board...

I also once handed Mel a copy of a book that suggested you could 'squat for 6 weeks and gain 20 pounds of lean hard muscle' and the response was that it was entertaining but unlikely to be accurate... Thankfully sq never had that effect on me personally or I'd have required more new wardrobes than I have been through personally over the years here as a competing powerlifter!

So if we consider that measuring the bodyfat an individual has on board is still somewhat less effective than we would like, how then can we be sure of lean gains that would be based on our best guess of the fat to lean ratio of a person? Would not a "lean muscle gain" not be entirely muscle also, but the bones themselves responding to the increased loads as well?

Interesting topic, back to reading. :)

The Phantom
aka Linda Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter
Denver, Colorado, USA

----- Original Message -----
From: "kendaiganoneill" <kayoneill@earthlink.net>
To: Supertraining@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:54:05 PM
Subject: [Supertraining] Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy

Krista's reports of 25-44 lbs of muscle gain within a year for life long ectomorphs.

I will dissent, however, on the notion that 20-30 lbs of muscle gain in as little as three months are hype. Back from the 1930s into the early 60s many a trainee reported 20 or more pounds increase in manly muscle over a three month period by means of specializing in 5 sets of 20 reps of breathing squats, some adding the Hise shrug. Thrice weekly, consuming nutrient dense whole foods and the sole protein supplement of that bygone era: milk.

Breathing squats are especially demanding, certainly no fun save for Masochists. With each set, one breath between reps 1-5, then 2 deep breaths for reps 6-10, three deep breaths for reps 11-15, and - you guessed it - four deep breaths between reps 16-20. The immediately onto a picnic bench for sets of 20 reps, very light weight dumbbell flyes to expand the rib cage for a big chest.

These days I'll defer to the exciting new work coming out of McMaster University comparing 1 set of 8-10 1 RM to failure vs 3 sets of 8-10 to failure 80% 1 RM vs 3 sets of 30 reps to failure with 30% 1 RM. Adding volume at 80% and 30% produced essentially equal hypertrophy, both significantly greater than 1 set to failure (a failed idea).

In my personal experience and that of training others, hitting significant annual hypertrophy is far more easily facilitated when rep schemes, cadence or tempo, stage sets, drop sets, using 30-80% 1 RM are all intelligently and strategically applied to one end: avoiding plateaus, instead sustainable anabolism.

--- In Supertraining@yahoogroups.com , Krista Scott-Dixon <kristascottdixon@...> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Anthony Pitruzzello
> <tonypit45@...> wrote:
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > I recently posted a question about rate of hypertrophy – basically, what are
> > the optimal realistic results a person can expect, vs. the endless claims in
> > the muscle mags, e.g., "Gain 20-30 pounds of lean muscle mass in six
> > weeks!!!" I compared the responses with some other data, and I thought I
> > would share it with the group.
> >
>
> I work with John Berardi at Precision Nutrition, which runs a
> muscle-gaining Scrawny to Brawny program. It's a one-year program that
> focuses on step-by-step habit acquisition and entrainment, like our
> other fat-loss program Lean Eating. We run a contest that awards money
> to top finishers -- people who dramatically transform their bodies.
>
> Looking at our recent 12-month cohorts, our top finalists put on
> between 25-44 lbs in a year. These are ectomorphs who are "lifetime
> scrawnies", so they gain mass relatively slowly -- some made notable
> transformations even with relatively less muscle gain, because small
> amounts of mass make a big difference on a shorter/skinnier frame.
> This is with a highly structured eating and training program, a coach,
> and daily check-ins (lessons and habits). All material is
> science/research-based as you might expect from JB and PN.
>
> Interestingly, our 6-month program was not as dissimilar as you would
> expect -- it doesn't seem to be a linear scale.
>
> Here are finalists from our early, 6-month program:
> http://www.precisionnutrition.com/s2b-winners-2010
>
> Here are finalists from our 12-month program that begin in May 2011.
> http://www.scrawnytobrawny.com/may-2011-finalists
>
> Krista
> Toronto, ON
>
> --------------------
> Krista Scott-Dixon, PhD
> Lean Eating Program Director
> PrecisionNutrition.com
> krista@...
>

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Thursday 14 June 2012

[Supertraining] Digest Number 4579

Messages In This Digest (2 Messages)

1a.
Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy From: kendaiganoneill
2a.
Re: Muscle mass From: efreem3407@aol.com

Messages

1a.

Re: More About Rate of Hypertrophy

Posted by: "kendaiganoneill" kayoneill@earthlink.net   kendaiganoneill

Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:33 pm (PDT)



Krista's reports of 25-44 lbs of muscle gain within a year for life long ectomorphs.

I will dissent, however, on the notion that 20-30 lbs of muscle gain in as little as three months are hype. Back from the 1930s into the early 60s many a trainee reported 20 or more pounds increase in manly muscle over a three month period by means of specializing in 5 sets of 20 reps of breathing squats, some adding the Hise shrug. Thrice weekly, consuming nutrient dense whole foods and the sole protein supplement of that bygone era: milk.

Breathing squats are especially demanding, certainly no fun save for Masochists. With each set, one breath between reps 1-5, then 2 deep breaths for reps 6-10, three deep breaths for reps 11-15, and - you guessed it - four deep breaths between reps 16-20. The immediately onto a picnic bench for sets of 20 reps, very light weight dumbbell flyes to expand the rib cage for a big chest.

These days I'll defer to the exciting new work coming out of McMaster University comparing 1 set of 8-10 1 RM to failure vs 3 sets of 8-10 to failure 80% 1 RM vs 3 sets of 30 reps to failure with 30% 1 RM. Adding volume at 80% and 30% produced essentially equal hypertrophy, both significantly greater than 1 set to failure (a failed idea).

In my personal experience and that of training others, hitting significant annual hypertrophy is far more easily facilitated when rep schemes, cadence or tempo, stage sets, drop sets, using 30-80% 1 RM are all intelligently and strategically applied to one end: avoiding plateaus, instead sustainable anabolism.

--- In Supertraining@yahoogroups.com, Krista Scott-Dixon <kristascottdixon@...> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Anthony Pitruzzello
> <tonypit45@...> wrote:
> >  Hello Everyone,
> >
> > I recently posted a question about rate of hypertrophy – basically, what are
> > the optimal realistic results a person can expect, vs. the endless claims in
> > the muscle mags, e.g., "Gain 20-30 pounds of lean muscle mass in six
> > weeks!!!"  I compared the responses with some other data, and I thought I
> > would share it with the group.
> >
>
> I work with John Berardi at Precision Nutrition, which runs a
> muscle-gaining Scrawny to Brawny program. It's a one-year program that
> focuses on step-by-step habit acquisition and entrainment, like our
> other fat-loss program Lean Eating. We run a contest that awards money
> to top finishers -- people who dramatically transform their bodies.
>
> Looking at our recent 12-month cohorts, our top finalists put on
> between 25-44 lbs in a year. These are ectomorphs who are "lifetime
> scrawnies", so they gain mass relatively slowly -- some made notable
> transformations even with relatively less muscle gain, because small
> amounts of mass make a big difference on a shorter/skinnier frame.
> This is with a highly structured eating and training program, a coach,
> and daily check-ins (lessons and habits). All material is
> science/research-based as you might expect from JB and PN.
>
> Interestingly, our 6-month program was not as dissimilar as you would
> expect -- it doesn't seem to be a linear scale.
>
> Here are finalists from our early, 6-month program:
> http://www.precisionnutrition.com/s2b-winners-2010
>
> Here are finalists from our 12-month program that begin in May 2011.
> http://www.scrawnytobrawny.com/may-2011-finalists
>
> Krista
> Toronto, ON
>
> --------------------
> Krista Scott-Dixon, PhD
> Lean Eating Program Director
> PrecisionNutrition.com
> krista@...
>

2a.

Re: Muscle mass

Posted by: "efreem3407@aol.com" efreem3407@aol.com   powerlifter4231

Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:34 pm (PDT)



Victor Conte was injecting his athletes with testosterone; also using human growth hormone. He said this in many interviews on television.

Edwin Freeman, Jr.
San Francisco, USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Ralph Giarnella <ragiarn@yahoo.com>
To: Supertraining <Supertraining@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jun 10, 2012 11:43 am
Subject: Re: [Supertraining] Re: Muscle mass

?"After the summit at BALCO, Montgomery [sprinter Tim] underwent a startling
transformation. By Conte's account, he gained 28 pounds of muscle in only
eight weeks."

Is that with or without magic supplements?
I vaguely remember some one posting that in non drug enhanced athletes it
might take up to a year to gain 8-10 lbs of real muscle.

Ralph Giarnella MD
Southington Ct. USA

________________________________
From: "CoachJ1@aol.com" <CoachJ1@aol.com>
To: Supertraining@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2012 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Supertraining] Re: Muscle mass


In a message dated 6/9/2012 1:07:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
Giovanni.Ciriani@Gmail.com writes:

I was thinking about the same after reading the story of the trainer who
gained weight and then lost it again. It didn't seem convincing, especially
in view of the posts of the last 6 months, discussing how much weight one
can lose without losing muscle mass.

In the Game of Shadows,authors Wada and Williams point out the following:

"After the summit at BALCO, Montgomery [sprinter Tim] underwent a
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[marriagerestoration] God Is God - June 14, 2012 - Doreen's Daily Delights

 

Will You Help Me? I want to inform all that I received only one response regarding purchasing a computer or laptop for the Ministry. Will you help me today? I am still using a loaned laptop. Yesterday, I was a bit disappointed, but I will continue to trust God to speak to the hearts of many. Thanks in advance. Pastor Doreen
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God Is God, Regardless!!

Numbers 13:1-2, 17-33; Dueteronomy 1:21, 28-30

We are living in an unsettled time, and no one, not even a Believer, is exempt from discouragement. But even when the desert is hot and dry, we must remember the God has a word of encouragement for all of us.

We must have faith in our journey, and we must have faith to see it through. We have a promise from God that sooner or later, He will send the rain to quench our thirsty spirit.

I am here to say today that God is still God regardless of what you are going through in your home. He is God when your spouse walks away. He is God when you are being forced to sign separation or divorce papers. He is God when you are alone and He is God when you are reconciled to your spouse. He is the God that loves you even when you feel like no one else does.

You may feel like the things you are currently facing have overwhelmed you and that God is far away. Your prayers just don't seem to be making it through the roof. But if you don't believe anything else, believe this: sooner or later, God is going to deliver you. Believe this. "You will be delivered."

Psa. 34:19 "Many are the afflictions of the righteous, but the LORD delivers him out of them all."

Today I want to speak to those who continue to doubt that God can do anything in their situation. Time and time again, life hasn't gone according to plan. Time and again things happen–no matter how challenging, how painful, or how unexpected. And yet, through it all, one thing remains: God Always Wins."

I must tell you that God is soooo good! He truly gives us what we need, exactly when we need it. God Always Wins. Believe this and have no doubt in your heart.

Prayer: Thank You Father that we can look to You. Thank You that You are faithful. Give us the strength we need to keep looking to You in faith. We are grateful that You are bigger than any trial, any fear and any struggle. We trust in You and look to You alone for the hope and strength we need.

You need not worry about your future. God will be with you every step of the way and He will be with you forevermore. God is God regardless.

I am praying and interceding on your behalf daily. May you be blessed and be at peace. Will you consider supporting this Ministry. Thanks again. You are appreciated.

Be encouraged
Pastor Doreen
2778 NW 193 Terr. Miami Gardens, FL 33056
http://marriagerestorationministries.org/mrm-pages001.html

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Telephone Counseling: Licensed Marriage Counselor. In addition to daily encouragement, I also offer telephone counseling in order to help support the Ministry. I do not charge a fee, but a donation to the Ministry would be appreciated.

Yahoo Site: www.marriagerestorationministries@yahoogroups.com

Website: http://marriagerestorationministries.org/

Email address: marriagerestoration@msn.com

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Wednesday 13 June 2012

[marriagerestoration] Praise Report - June 13, 2012 - Doreen's Daily Delights

 

Praise Report!!

Pastor Doreen, I am writing to say that my wife called to say that she misses me and wanted to know if we could talk.

Praise the Lord! Thank you Jesus! Thank you, thank you, for standing in agreement with me. Through God all things are possible. Thank you) for your prayers and counseling sessions. John
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Who Will You Trust, In Such a Time as This?

Friends, while you are hurting, who will you trust? While you are
confused and anxious about your situation, who will you trust?

At this time, only God and God alone can be trusted. God will never
fail you, He is faithful.

Keep trusting the Lord for the restoration of your marriage. Tell the
devil that he will not prevail. No weapon formed against you shall be
able to prosper.

The Bible also says that:
"No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God
is faithful; He will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear.
But when you are tempted, He will also provide a way out so that you
can stand up under it." 1st Cor. 10:13 (NIV)

So, while we face this crisis in our marriage, let us take strength
and comfort in knowing that God is in control, and can be trusted. He
will never leave us nor forsake us, and that no matter what trials we
may be facing, that God is still there. Take your comfort in His Word,
and in the promise of victory for those who remain faithful.

"I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have
plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every
situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in
want. I can do everything through him who gives me strength." Phil.
12-13. (NIV)

In my situation I had to trust God and God alone to do the impossible. The Lord did not put me to shame. Weeping may last for a night, but joy comes in the morning.

He will do likewise for you. You only need to trust Him and to
believe without doubting. Doubting will stop your blessing.

I pray for you daily. I also pray for these prodigals that the
Lord may open their eyes and change their hearts. Even now I pray
that whatever plans they may have will come to naught. God's plan
will stand in the end. We cannot lose. How can we lose when we are on
God's side. He has NEVER, NEVER, EVER lost a battle.

"Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own
understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and He shall direct
thy paths." Prov. 3:5-6 (KJV)

"...for the joy of the LORD is your strength." Neh. 8:10 (KJV)

In such a time as this, ONLY God can be trusted. Trust God today to
heal and restore your home.

I want to thank those who have been assisting me in this quest for the healing of marriages. Without your prayers and financial support, there is no way I would be able to encourage and minister to many. I thank God daily for your obedience and faithfulness.

Be encouraged
Pastor Doreen
2778 NW 193 Terr. Miami Gardens, FL 33056
http://marriagerestorationministries.org/mrm-pages001.html

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Recent Activity:
https://www.paypal.com/

Telephone Counseling: Licensed Marriage Counselor. In addition to daily encouragement, I also offer telephone counseling in order to help support the Ministry. I do not charge a fee, but a donation to the Ministry would be appreciated.

Yahoo Site: www.marriagerestorationministries@yahoogroups.com

Website: http://marriagerestorationministries.org/

Email address: marriagerestoration@msn.com

All Rights Reserved.  No part of Doreen's Daily Delights may be republished or reprinted on other Websites without her permission.
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