Ralph,
It's a good point.
Please let me correct your equations for Power and Work:
Work = Force x Distance
Power = Force x Distance / Time
Giovanni Ciriani - West Hartford, CT - USA
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Ralph Giarnella <
ragiarn@yahoo.com> wrote:
> **
>
>
> Weight = gravity. No gravity no weight
>
> The point I was trying to make is that all we measure for a 1 Max rm is
> the weight lifted.
> Measurements of work done, amount of force applied, power generated,
> require that we make other measurements other that the weight lifted.
> It takes more force to lift 200 lbs in 2 seconds than it does to lift it
> in 4 seconds. Force = mass x acceleration. The greater the acceleration
> the greater the force required. In this case we need to measure how long it
> takes to move the object.
>
> Work done = mass x distance. There is more work done if a weight is
> lifted 18 inches vs 12 inches. A tall person does more work lifting 200
> lbs than a short person.
>
> With regards: to power Power = works x distance/time. Moving 200 lbs
> 18inches in 2 seconds requires more power than moving 200 lbs 18 inches in
> 4 seconds.
>
>
> Ralph Giarnella MD
> Southington Ct. USA
>
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> From: Giovanni Ciriani <Giovanni.Ciriani@Gmail.com>
> To: Supertraining@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 1:22 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [Supertraining] Re: 1 Rep Max
>
>
>
> Ralph,
> You have to add force of gravity to your equation (and any other other
> force intervening).
> Giovanni Ciriani - West Hartford, CT - USA
>
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Ralph Giarnella <ragiarn@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > **
>
> >
> >
> > I have been following this discussion with interest.
> >
> > My understanding of Max1rm is that it is simply a bench mark for an
> > individual to use as a means of planning a training regimen and to
> measure
> > progress over time.
> >
> > How this is Max 1rm is done probably matters only to the individual as
> > long as every time it is measured it is conducted in the same manner.
> >
> > I am not sure that the Max 1 rm really measures max force but rather max
> > effort. Measurement of force requires in its equation rate of
> acceleration.
> >
> > Force = Mass (x) Acceleration
> >
> > Ralph Giarnella MD
> > Southington Ct. USA
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: John Casler <bioforce.inc@gte.net>
> > To: Supertraining@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 2:56 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Supertraining] Re: 1 Rep Max
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I think often we get confused with what we are looking at. Keith is 100%
> > correct that in a "TRUE" 1RM effort we will be applying the greatest
> muscle
> > and mechanical force we can to that effort and "speed" will be a
> by-product
> > of that effort.
> >
> > The confusion I speak of is when we begin to combine a specific
> > "competitive" lift and the rule parameters of that lift, which may
> include
> > a
> > speed, or a pause, or some other component that will actually be NOT
> > representative of a TRUE 1RM effort.
> >
> > So the take home is that the speed component is an observable by-product
> of
> > a 1RM (or any RM) but it is NOT the component that defines the effort as
> a
> > 1RM.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > John Casler
> > TRI-VECTOR 3-D Training Systems
> > Century City, CA
> >
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Supertraining@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> Supertraining@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of Keith Hobman
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 8:54 AM
> > To: Supertraining@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Supertraining] Re: 1 Rep Max
> >
> > Right, but my point was a 1RM requires force and velocity, but tests
> > neither. It simply tests the 1RM. The parameters are defined by
> > requirements
> > outside of force and velocity.
> >
> > Keith Hobman
> > Saskatoon, Canada
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